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To: Hoplite

The timing is all that matters. What are you talking about? You clearly do not have the recent events or accurate sequence of events placed properly. The stingers in the Balkans is a fact. I personally talked to the person that conducted the lie detector test on the perps. He discovered two things in several interviews of Albanian terrorist. One, they had acquired stinger missiles going through Bosnia to be used in Kosovo.......This was passed to us in one KFOR Security meeting at Bondsteel during 2002. I actually could locate the minutes of the meeting that they reported this. I returned to the U.S. in 2004, and due to circumstances actually met the person that conducted the lie detector test that discovered this bit of intelligence.

What you declare or state is not correct nor is it of any authority. The SUC convention has more truth than most any other conference or intell gathering.

Hoplite, the stingers in the Balkans is a fact and for me it's not second hand......it's from two distinct sources that are confirmed. The other bit of info was the suicide bomber planning to take out Bondsteel during a lunch period........that is also confirmed.....it was stopped.....due to the same lie detector tech......

Hopelite, don't even try........


48 posted on 03/04/2006 1:12:43 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill; Hoplite; F-117A; DTA; Banat
By shooting down an Italian UN relief plane with a Stinger missile , attacking and killing French UN troops, and organizing various self-bombings in Sarajevo, the Bosnian Moslem Government in Sarajevo convinced the world "public opinion", that "the Serbs did it". (see David Owen, Balkan Odyssey, pp41-48, pp.255-262 and Lewis MacKenzie, Peacekeeper)
And more
Weapons experts also confirm thet Stingers from Afghanistan have shown up in Lebanon, Sri Lanka, Bosnia and Tajikistan. Thus far, the CIA has not succeeded in buying any of the missiles back.
And more, this time from 1995
The drops contained vital, high value supplies: Anti-tank guided weapons to counter Bosnian Serb armour, Stinger surface-to-air missiles. to ward off helicopters, night vision goggles and most importantly Motorola radio sets to allow the ABiH to operate more efficiently in large scale offensive operations.
49 posted on 03/04/2006 1:40:49 PM PST by zagor-te-nej (USS - United States of Serbia)
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To: tgambill
You clearly do not have the recent events or accurate sequence of events placed properly.

Yeah, it's all me Tom.

The Balkans is awash in SA-7s and its derivatives, and has been ever since Yugoslavia dissolved. To this day, NATO is scarfing them up for destruction in Bosnia, and Macedonia, but with Albania's pre '97 stocks still unaccounted for, the work is going to take awhile.

But if you want to buy into in this MANPADS version of Bigfoot sightings, with its typical Serbian logical inconsistency, well who am I to stop you?

If you choose to believe that the Taleban doesn't have any use for Stingers now that Afghanistan's skies are filled with US planes and helicopters, and instead chooses to smuggle any remaining stocks thousands of miles into an area overstocked with similar systems, well it just fits the type of information you've chosen to belive in the past, doesn't it?

If you can pull one confirmed instance where a Stinger has been found in the Balkans, then you're a better man than I, Tom.

But as it stands right now, it's all just so much disinformation and half-assed reporting which misrepresents any SAM as a "Stinger", as if it were a generic category all its own.

51 posted on 03/05/2006 7:25:05 PM PST by Hoplite
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