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To: tgambill
You clearly do not have the recent events or accurate sequence of events placed properly.

Yeah, it's all me Tom.

The Balkans is awash in SA-7s and its derivatives, and has been ever since Yugoslavia dissolved. To this day, NATO is scarfing them up for destruction in Bosnia, and Macedonia, but with Albania's pre '97 stocks still unaccounted for, the work is going to take awhile.

But if you want to buy into in this MANPADS version of Bigfoot sightings, with its typical Serbian logical inconsistency, well who am I to stop you?

If you choose to believe that the Taleban doesn't have any use for Stingers now that Afghanistan's skies are filled with US planes and helicopters, and instead chooses to smuggle any remaining stocks thousands of miles into an area overstocked with similar systems, well it just fits the type of information you've chosen to belive in the past, doesn't it?

If you can pull one confirmed instance where a Stinger has been found in the Balkans, then you're a better man than I, Tom.

But as it stands right now, it's all just so much disinformation and half-assed reporting which misrepresents any SAM as a "Stinger", as if it were a generic category all its own.

51 posted on 03/05/2006 7:25:05 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

You are absolutely wrong. However, I can give you the benefit of the doubt, as the stingers reported from the Kosovo sources could very well be isolated to the incidents reported in 2002. I can't answer for Bosnia, but for Kosovo I'm 100% sure because I did a personal interview with the specialist that interviewed the Albanians what did have the information. The information was confirmed via a lie detector test and it was reported in a Camp Bondsteel security meeting, Unclassed. I'm not even going to discuss it further because you more than likely wouldn't even know about it.

This has nothing to do with Serbian bigfoot sightings as you would take the dramatic approach to lie and admit you aren't aware. You are posting, not for my benefit, but to promote the MSM BS for other readers and give some doubt to the truth. The Stingers were going to be used against NATO, UN targets by the Albanian or Muh. located there. They were not given the opportunity as I don't know how the situation was handled after confirmed by KFOR.

Hoplite, it is all you......you tend to leave out key facts or data in order to make your point. This is a typical "Clintonian" trend...of lying. You also don't make comment on points or facts that go against your point, you don't comment unless you can find some twist after you confer with others about points you can't make at the moment. You're easy to handle.......must be frustrating to always call on those smarter and more knowledgable than you to give you talking points no matter how weak.


55 posted on 03/05/2006 8:25:20 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Hoplite

By the way, the collection of weapons by the Macedonians, I have eyewitness reports that several OSCE/UN inspectors had observed the same weapons in more than one stack. They had old chinese weapons in some cases, and it was discovered that the serial numbers of the weapons in one stack matched the same weapons in another alledged stack of weapons after they had suspicions.

The collection of 2,000-3,000 weapons didn't even scratch the surface. Most of the weapons were old and poorly maintained pieces. The "real" weapons were never touched. The whole turn in was a farce.........same for the UCPMB in South Presevo.

The war isn't over.....it will break out again if Kosovo gets independence as Ceku will be a signficant instigator and planner for South Presevo (referred to as East Kosovo), Western Macedonia, Volvidina and Sandjak to name a few of the after effects.....this is for sure.



56 posted on 03/05/2006 8:42:56 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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