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To: VadeRetro; Diamond; bluepistolero; Elsie
ReligiousTolerance.org's definitions are ludicrous, considering who is behind the website. They are neither religious nor tolerant, but they are organized.

No one is calling for the death penalty for anyone but murderers. (And a lot of liberals I know don't even want that.)

But that doesn't stop the lies.

Again, what's so bad about a nation led by God? It's almost funny how we've been inculcated with the unitarian notion that this is somehow a negative.

If it were possible that all the world became Christian, would that be a bad thing in your mind?

974 posted on 09/15/2005 12:10:40 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
No one is calling for the death penalty for anyone but murderers. (And a lot of liberals I know don't even want that.)

Great! I'm reassured. Now tell me which is false:

1) A church or congregation which does not accept the Mosaic Law has another god before them, and is thus guilty of idolatry.

2) That would be punishable by death.

Is having a god other than the Mosaic Law's God not idolatry? Is idolatry punishable or non-punishable? If punishable, by what? Does Mosaic Law itself mention the topic?
976 posted on 09/15/2005 12:15:25 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Again, what's so bad about a nation led by God?

When He shows up in person I won't be in the way.

978 posted on 09/15/2005 12:17:06 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
If it were possible that all the world became Christian, would that be a bad thing in your mind?

Speaking as an agnostic, it would depend on what exactly happened to all the agnostics.

979 posted on 09/15/2005 12:18:10 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; VadeRetro
No one is calling for the death penalty for anyone but murderers. (And a lot of liberals I know don't even want that.)

This is certainly not a left wing source.

Doctrinal leaders (notably Rushdoony, North, and Bahnsen) call for the death penalty for a wide range of crimes in addition to such contemporary capital crimes as rape, kidnapping, and murder. Death is also the punishment for apostasy (abandonment of the faith), heresy, blasphemy, witchcraft, astrology, adultery, ''sodomy or homosexuality,'' incest, striking a parent, incorrigible juvenile delinquency, and, in the case of women, ''unchastity before marriage.''

According to Gary North, women who have abortions should be publicly executed, ''along with those who advised them to abort their children.'' Rushdoony concludes: ''God's government prevails, and His alternatives are clear-cut: either men and nations obey His laws, or God invokes the death penalty against them.'' Reconstructionists insist that ''the death penalty is the maximum, not necessarily the mandatory penalty.'' However, such judgments may depend less on Biblical Principles than on which faction gains power in the theocratic republic. The potential for bloodthirsty episodes on the order of the Salem witchcraft trials or the Spanish Inquisition is inadvertently revealed by Reconstructionist theologian Rev. Ray Sutton, who claims that the Reconstructed Biblical theocracies would be ''happy'' places, to which people would flock because ''capital punishment is one of the best evangelistic tools of a society.''

Gary deMar, leading Christian Reconstructionist writer, in his own words:

GONZALES: Oh, so what you are saying Gary, is, if you catch homosexuals in the act, then the Bible says to execute them.

DEMAR: The Bible lays forth the severest penalty, which would be capital punishment for two men who publicly engage in sodomy.

GONZALES: Does it say "publicly" in the Bible?

DEMAR: You've got to have at least two witnesses who would come forth and testify against the two people who had engaged in sodomy. The severest punishment would be capital punishment. It doesn't mean that has to be the punishment.

PORTEOUS: Now, there was a case a couple of years ago, and I believe it was Georgia....

DEMAR: It was Georgia.

PORTEOUS: Two men were seen by the police, because the police came in the house for a different reason, and saw them having sex, engaging in homosexual activity in bed.

DEMAR: Sodomy.

PORTEOUS: They were arrested. So you're saying that these two men, according to the Bible, could receive the death penalty?

DEMAR: Well...

PORTEOUS: Is that what you're saying?

DEMAR: First of all, remember, the Supreme Court upheld Georgia's law. Second, yes I agree that the Bible lays the death penalty for two men who are engaged in sodomy in public.

1,002 posted on 09/15/2005 12:53:29 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Because the nation won't be led by God. It will be led by men who claim to speak on behalf of the Almighty. Power corrupts, but when it's mixed with the belief that God is backing one up, then it becomes especially corrupting -- even more so if those in power begin believing their own press releases.


1,005 posted on 09/15/2005 12:55:22 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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Again, what's so bad about a nation led by God?

Listening to Michael Medved? He just said that a few minutes before you posted.

1,045 posted on 09/15/2005 1:37:46 PM PDT by ml1954
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Again, what's so bad about a nation led by God?

Its not the Big Man so much as the A-holish minions claiming to carry out his will.

1,218 posted on 09/15/2005 8:21:56 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; VadeRetro
If it were possible that all the world became Christian, would that be a bad thing in your mind?

I guess that would mean no more of those little Jack-Chick style flyers would be thrust in my face when I am on the subway. Maybe youre on to something.

1,219 posted on 09/15/2005 8:24:53 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
If it were possible that all the world became Christian, would that be a bad thing in your mind?

Well.........

There goes Mardi Gras!!!!

1,237 posted on 09/16/2005 6:06:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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