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Intelligent design [was] old news to Darwin
Chicago Tribune ^ | 13 September 2005 | Tom Hundley

Posted on 09/13/2005 4:15:07 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: From many - one.

10?

Nope...

These were a CONTRACT between the JEWS and GOD.

Non-Jews had nothing to do with this.


1,341 posted on 09/16/2005 12:17:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Is the butter dish in the refirgerator?

Is there more than one elephant in the refrigerator?


1,342 posted on 09/16/2005 12:18:39 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: RightWingNilla

No problem - she doesn't really have to leave the house, right?


1,343 posted on 09/16/2005 12:18:58 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: Elsie

So the Ten Commandments are now invalid?


1,344 posted on 09/16/2005 12:20:07 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: RightWingNilla
That does not deny the banner, only the timing.

The banner implies we should love one another and help one another and work to create prosperity for ourselves and for everyone as "one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Scandalous.

Did you ever see "Crimes and Misdemeanors?"

1,345 posted on 09/16/2005 12:21:28 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray)
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To: From many - one.
Is the butter dish in the refirgerator?

You tell me. That elephant's yours.

Is there more than one elephant in the refrigerator?

A refrigerator big enough for two elephants? On a college professor's salary?

1,346 posted on 09/16/2005 12:21:51 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: general_re
No problem - she doesn't really have to leave the house, right?

Nah, she always wanted to live under a Taliban-style regime. She wrote in "Mullah Omar" in the last presidental election. I am sure she'd love it. Woody Allen would probably like it too.

This may be nuttiest crevo thread ever. And that's saying a LOT.

1,347 posted on 09/16/2005 12:23:03 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Right Wing Professor

So far two people have managed to play this game.

You must spend too much time in academia where evading the question is half the fun.


1,348 posted on 09/16/2005 12:23:31 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray)
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To: Right Wing Professor; Thatcherite; PatrickHenry

When searching FR for past posts, I have found that just following a poster back in time seems to work the best. Takes a while but it does work. (That includes looking for old posts of mine)


1,349 posted on 09/16/2005 12:23:51 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The banner implies...

Plenty of stuff.

What God wants, God gets of course.

1,350 posted on 09/16/2005 12:24:09 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: RightWingNilla; Doctor Stochastic
Can you believe this thread?

I have a distant memory about people talking about evolution vs. intelligent design here once. The evidence exists in the form of archived comments, but I'm not sure - they may have been placed there in finished form by an "Intelligent Moderator". Discuss.

1,351 posted on 09/16/2005 12:24:50 PM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Right Wing Professor; general_re
where evading the question is half the fun.

Spoken by a pro.

1,352 posted on 09/16/2005 12:25:21 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I answered your question. I'd be reasonably kewl with the Presbyterian Church USA's God, at least the one that belongs to those I know (boring, though!), but with your God or the Northern Ireland Free Presbyterian Church's God, I'd still be an atheist.

Now about those elephants?

1,353 posted on 09/16/2005 12:28:16 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Of course. It's my belief that God loves the Jews as His first chosen people. Christ was a Jew; Mary was a Jew; Joseph was a Jew; David was a Jew; Moses was a Jew; Woody Allen is a Jew...

 
But..............

 
 
 
 
 
Romans 9
God's Sovereign Choice
    1I speak the truth in Christ—I am not lying, my conscience confirms it in the Holy Spirit— 2I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. 3For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, those of my own race, 4the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption as sons; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. 5Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised![a] Amen.

    6It is not as though God's word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham's children. On the contrary, "It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned."[b] 8In other words, it is not the natural children who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's offspring. 9For this was how the promise was stated: "At the appointed time I will return, and Sarah will have a son."[c]

    10Not only that, but Rebekah's children had one and the same father, our father Isaac. 11Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God's purpose in election might stand: 12not by works but by him who calls—she was told, "The older will serve the younger."[d] 13Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."[e]

    14What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15For he says to Moses,
   "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
      and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."[f] 16It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy. 17For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."[g] 18Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

    19One of you will say to me: "Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?" 20But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, 'Why did you make me like this?' "[h] 21Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?

    22What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? 25As he says in Hosea:
   "I will call them 'my people' who are not my people;
      and I will call her 'my loved one' who is not my loved one,"[i] 26and,
   "It will happen that in the very place where it was said to them,
     
 'You are not my people,'
   they will be called 'sons of the living God
.' "[j]


1,354 posted on 09/16/2005 12:28:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Right Wing Professor

The elephant may be mine but the butter dish is my roomie's.

And you didn't say anything about elephants as living creatures. What about a small carved elephant? Huh?


1,355 posted on 09/16/2005 12:29:43 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: Right Wing Professor

How big is the refrigerator?


1,356 posted on 09/16/2005 12:30:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
How big is the refrigerator?

Most confirmed measurements say it extends about 13.5 billion years from Earth in any given direction.

1,357 posted on 09/16/2005 12:31:20 PM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: Quark2005; Elsie
Most confirmed measurements say it extends about 13.5 billion years from Earth in any given direction.

I meant 13.5 billion light years. (oops)

1,358 posted on 09/16/2005 12:32:28 PM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: Right Wing Professor
I knew I detected a Catholic school upbringing in your bitterness.

I could tell you stories about the buildings my Orangmen relatives were residing in when they were blown up by the Irish Separatists, but it's not really important to this discussion. Ireland is finding peace at last, thank God and the Bush administration.

Denial is preferable to depression.

See, that's another thing we disagree on. Depressed people are lifted out of their dark clouds every day of the week.

Deniers are blind and have a really hard time of making out what the words actually say.

1,359 posted on 09/16/2005 12:32:46 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray)
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To: From many - one.
The elephant may be mine but the butter dish is my roomie's.

Your roomie is very understanding. Still, I'd wash it before I used it again.

And you didn't say anything about elephants as living creatures. What about a small carved elephant? Huh

Nah, mine's a real elephant, wearing a baseball cap. We must be thinking of different elephants. But thanks for your cooperation. If we get some more volunteers, maybe we can figure out exactly how many hypothetical elephants there are.

1,360 posted on 09/16/2005 12:33:22 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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