Posted on 09/12/2005 5:12:45 PM PDT by Nov3
go to
https://secure.nraila.org/Contact.aspx
and say thank you and get cracking on the lawsuits.
Can you provide more info on this survey or a link to further info?
Thanks
I am totally lucky. Why? I don't live in NOLA. So? Well, if I did, I'd probably be dead...after surviving the hurricane. (And the LEOs/spooks/alphabet agencies on this site who know me know exactly what I mean).
5.56mm
"Now, get on the ball and initiate legal action against the NOPD to ensure that those lawful citizens get their firearms back, or AT THE LEAST some kind of appropriate reimbursement.."
Anything short of full and complete restoration of these firearms to their owners is totally unacceptable! And, yes, the NRA has become even more of a disappointment to we members who believed it would be there for us.
It has been a while! Where have you been? This place has gone off a cliff and parts of it weren't too solid when you stopped posting.
This place has gone off a cliff and parts of it weren't too solid when you stopped posting.
When you and I were newbies, there were 13000 posters. Now there's a quarter MILLION! Whew. No matter, we will still right the ship. ;^)
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"Nov. 3rd is correct. Those who are paying attention to the likes of Bill O'Reiley are likely worthless. I figured him out when he dissed the Swift Boat Vets."
I've noticed that Bill O. is really a big government kind of guy. Whenever he discusses the WOD he starts foaming at the mouth practically. He really seems to believe that people don't have rights where the government is concerned. Maybe it's his Northeastern liberal education.
Whaaat!? I read FR every day but I missed that one.
What happened?
I would not be surprised if the confiscated guns had already been appropriated for the personal collections of the seizing officers or mysteriously "lost" and unavailable for restoration to their rightful owners.
He'd probably be content if he were made Dictator.
Thanks for posting this and BTTT.
If the NRA performs to its usual level, it'll huff and puff and come up with a 'compromise' solution that confiscation is OK so long as the NRA is part of the process.
So far as the Bush administration is concerned, their position will be that the RKBA is an individual right and individuals can appeal to the courts. Expect no action nor even much lip service.
If people like Grut perform up to their usual level they will do a bunch of typing and griping and nothing else.
Do something or be part of the problem
Trav, you are no longer an author. It is with a very heavy heart that I inform you that you have become a news forecaster.
http://asjewelers.com/FRstuff/Katrina/Constitutional_Crisis_small.wmv
The true American philosophy of Government has always not only recognized the right of the citizen to private arms, but has sought to encourage its exercise as one of the true foundational pillars of our whole system. (See The Right & Duty To Keep & Bear Arms. George Washington actually wanted Congress to appropriate funds to make sure that every family could afford to arm its young manhood.)
One also hears tales of Governmental personnel (FEMA, etc.) appropriating private property. What needs to be addressed, with clarity and determination, is the whole idea of substituting utilitarian premises--the greatest good for the greatest number--for the moral foundations of American society. The individual does not hold his basic rights to property and to take measures for personal protection by the leave of the present Governments. They are not subject to being seized because of an emergency. (There is a right of eminent domain, but not without a corresponding right to compensation and due process--and certainly not at the whim of lower level bureaucrats.)
The damage from the Hurricane may have been as severe as has been reported (although where you snap the pictures certainly controls the impressions created), but no mere storm--however terrible--must be allowed to blow American principles away. This is the one land on earth built upon the principle that the individual matters; that his rights are not the collective's to take away.
William Flax
46. The U.S. government declares a ban on the possession, sale transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting firearms. A thirty (30) day amnesty period is permitted for these firearms to be turned over to the local authorities. At the end of this period, a number of citizen groups refuse to turn over their firearms. Consider the following statement: I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. government
Here's another link. I dunno if it's accurate or not, but it helps "fill in" an important part of the picture.
The Truth: The survey does exist and was passed out to a few hundred Marines in 29 Palms, California, in 1995, but not by the Pentagon. According to an article in NEW AMERICAN magazine in October of 1995 by John F. McManus, the survey was part of an academic project on the part of a Marine Lieutenant Commander Ernest Guy Cunningham who was earning his Masters Degree from the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California. The survey alarmed some of the Marines and copies soon started being circulated among gun rights supporters. Lt. Cunningham told McManus that he was a member of the National Rifle Association himself and didn't agree with the tone of the questions. He said the survey was intended to confirm and then pass on to higher authorities his fears about "the lack of knowledge among the soldiers about the U.S. Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and their heritage as Americans."
OReilly is simply a populist-fascist.
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