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It points towards Mecca (Flight 93 memorial)
Politicalities ^ | Sept 11,2005 | Jonathan Haas

Posted on 09/12/2005 12:10:14 AM PDT by spycatcher

It points towards Mecca

Today is September 11.

Michelle Malkin and other bloggers are buzzing about the proposed Flight 93 memorial, which bears a striking resemblance to an Islamic crescent. Zombie produces an animated image consisting of the memorial (rotated so the arms of the crescent point to the right) overlapped with the crescent of the Tunisian flag. The juxtaposition is nearly perfect.

Zombie also links to this image credited to "Etaoin Shrdlu". What you're seeing is an azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe centered on the Flight 93 crash site. On such a projection, the concentric circles represent a fixed distance from the center, and the angle of a straight line from the center to any point represents the azimuth between the two points. Etaoin's image shows that a line perpendicular to the endpoints of the crescent (that is, the direction the crescent faces) appears to pass very close to Mecca. Mecca sits near Saudi Arabia's western coast with the Red Sea, and as Etaoin's image shows, the crescent points right at it.

But I've always been one to go for cold calculations over pretty pictures, so I set to find out if indeed the crescent points towards Mecca. Here's what I came up with:

According to this site, the latitude/longitude coordinates of Mecca are 21.4234, 39.8262 and the coordinates of the Flight 93 crash site are 40.052, -78.8963. Using the calculator from this site, I determined that the azimuth between the two points is 124.80°.

Next I went to the Flight 93 National Memorial website and found the biggest overhead view of the memorial I could find with north oriented up. I measured the distance from tip-to-tip of the crescent and came up with 64px east-west and 90px north-south. The arctangent of 64/90 is the angle between north and a line drawn between the tips, which works out to 35.42°. Adding 90° to this angle gives the direction the crescent faces as 125.42°.

Conclusion: the crescent points towards Mecca with an error of 0.62°, or 0.17%. If you take a circle and divide its circumference into 580 equal arcs, the angle subtended by one of those arcs is the error. (Bear in mind that any error in my figures could change this value; the figure most open to interpretation is the distance in pixels between the tips of the crescent.)

I don't know if the architect deliberately made his design look like an Islamic crescent, or if it's coincidental. I don't know if the architect deliberately made his crescent point almost directly towards Mecca, or if it's coincidental. What I do know is that a memorial in the shape of a swastika would never be permitted, whether the resemblance was intentional or a coincidence. Nor would a memorial resembling a Confederate battle flag.

The strong resemblance of this memorial to an Islamic symbol, whether intentional or accidental, is grossly insensitive to those of us who find it offensive. The commission needs to go back to the drawing board.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 911memorial; aliens; crescent; crushislam; embrace; flight93; flight93memorial; islam; islamisevil; lousydesign; mecca; muslim; redcrescent
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To: spycatcher
If the crescent does not involve the debris trough, then the crescent needs to be scrapped because of what the crescent represents.

From the descriptions of the memorial, it appears that the purpose of the crescent was to envelope the debris field... from the pictures, it does not.

161 posted on 09/12/2005 8:26:57 AM PDT by carton253 (It's better to have a gun and not need it than not have a gun and need it.)
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To: D-fendr
The Washington Monument is an obelisk. It is surrounded by a full circle of 50 US state flags.

Nothing could be more different as opposed to a "Tower of Voices" "calling to prayer" inside a "Crescent of Embrace".

162 posted on 09/12/2005 8:34:04 AM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: nanetteclaret
"Heinz Foundation? As in Teresa Heinz Kerry?"

Yes.

163 posted on 09/12/2005 8:34:31 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: MindBender26
Etaoin Shrdlu are also the most frequently used letters in the english language in order of most frequent to lesser frequency.
164 posted on 09/12/2005 8:45:05 AM PDT by zeugma (Muslims are varelse...)
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To: King Prout
considering what a PITA it was to get this data, the odds against this alignment being "innocent/accidental" seem rather miniscule.

Heck, the Temple Owls had a better chance of beating the Wisconsin Badgers Saturday than this does of being anything other than a Leftist sell-out to the Islamokazis.

165 posted on 09/12/2005 8:55:54 AM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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To: spunkets
I'm shocked, SHOCKED that Tah-RAY-zah's fingerprints are all over this. And to think that we came thisclose to having that <string of expletives deleted> as First Lady.
166 posted on 09/12/2005 8:57:59 AM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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To: OXENinFLA

It's also pointing toward Albany, NY!


167 posted on 09/12/2005 9:02:29 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Pukin Dog
" I probably should not respond to anything related to Flight 93 for other reasons, but I think this is a phony controversy for a phony issue."

Maybe the passengers helped bring FL93 down, OR...Sure, it could have been shot down....

How do you perceive this as a "phony issue"?

168 posted on 09/12/2005 9:12:56 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Thinkin' Gal
"The 'Crescent of Embrace' memorial was chosen Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2005, by the Flight 93 Advisory Commission."

Do we have names?

169 posted on 09/12/2005 9:16:07 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: D-fendr
The design was exhibited for the families and family members were on the selection committee.

There's one family member who is on FR and likes the design.

170 posted on 09/12/2005 9:16:55 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: spycatcher; martin_fierro; King Prout; All

This has to be the most insulting thing the designer could think up.

Do they have islam-apologists working on this memorial?

Why is it that this, and the PC-memorial at the WTC, have to be tainted like this?

This cannot be allowed.


171 posted on 09/12/2005 9:20:19 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: carton253

I should clarify that from what I can tell the flight path does not appear to be coincidentally alinged to Mecca. But the crescent does embrace the "sacred ground" in the exact direction of Mecca. So it looks like it was an optional symbolic design.


172 posted on 09/12/2005 9:22:52 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: martin_fierro
I find the design, makes me uneasy, by just looking at....

The tentacles of embrace, are particularly troublesome, it appears to me to the open mouth of roaring lion (Islam), to walk into an area that has only one exit, that which was used to enter, is even more disturbing......all monuments in our western sociality reach for the stars, point to heaven, are reaching out,not circular. Circular design, forces turning ones back, on the meaning of the memorial in order to depart the area, and to "embrace" or face the "new" horizon, which is to the east....
173 posted on 09/12/2005 9:42:08 AM PDT by thinking
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To: King Prout
"biggest hi-rez plan view of the proposed design"

Google Earth?

174 posted on 09/12/2005 9:47:06 AM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: StAnDeliver

Calling to prayer was my term. They're are using the modern minaret "tower of voices" for essentially that purpose though. Except the prayer is not called for 5 times a day but 24/7.


175 posted on 09/12/2005 10:25:57 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher; D-fendr
That's why I offset it in separate quotes. I think it's an accurate summation.

What it comes down to, is that it doesn't matter what D-fendr thinks, or I think, but that Allah-infused 'memorial' is now going to change. I give the over/under on the announcement of the scrapping of the current design at three news cycles, depending on when Hume/Rush/Hannity pick it up.

176 posted on 09/12/2005 10:31:30 AM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: non-anonymous

There are 2 ways to Mecca...the short way and the long way...the long way is the opposite ot the short way bearing...


177 posted on 09/12/2005 10:40:59 AM PDT by thinking
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To: F16Fighter

I think the statement you quoted is as far as I am going to go on the subject.


178 posted on 09/12/2005 11:01:16 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache-Helping to keep Liberals free to be stupid since 1977)
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To: King Prout
after 10 minutes, that damned pdf locked up my browser.

Sorry, it is a big monster. I downloaded it before viewing in Acrobat. Perhaps this would work for you too?

179 posted on 09/12/2005 11:30:02 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: HighWheeler
Did you even see the list of similarities??

Yes, but except for the crescent I think they are a stretch.

180 posted on 09/12/2005 11:31:01 AM PDT by D-fendr
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