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Death Counts and Crude Mortality Rates (For Katrina comparison in New Orleans)
Louisiana Dept. of Vital Statistics ^ | 2004 | Unknown

Posted on 09/11/2005 5:50:12 PM PDT by fso301

See link for pdf file containing mortality rates for Louisiana on a Parish by Parish basis. Use this to compare Katrina related death count versus normal.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blanco; deathcount; deathrate; hurricanedeaths; katrina; louisiana; mortality; nagin; neworleans; orleans; parish; vitalstatistics
For comparison of death count attributed to Katrina in New Orleans (and elsewhere in Louisiana) versus normal death rate.

The referenced pdf was created in 2004 but uses 2002 mortality figures. There were 10,084 deaths of all kinds in Orleans Parish. That's 27.63 residents of Orleans Parish dying each day.

Additional Louisiana Vital Statistics (including detailed abortion statistics) here.

1 posted on 09/11/2005 5:50:15 PM PDT by fso301
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Very interesting. I had been wondering about this. Thanks for the post.


2 posted on 09/11/2005 5:53:31 PM PDT by BigBobber
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My off-the-top-of-the-head estimate had been 15/day as "nornmal" for NO. 10x for 5 days would lead to an estimate of 750.


3 posted on 09/11/2005 6:01:20 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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To: fso301

Bump. Thank you for this interesting analysis. I think the MSM will be deeply saddened if there aren't 1000s of deaths to try and pin on Bush and the Republicans.


4 posted on 09/11/2005 6:06:27 PM PDT by Cautor
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Good post, I was wondering about this the other day.


5 posted on 09/11/2005 6:12:04 PM PDT by penelopesire
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To: Cautor
I think the MSM will be deeply saddened if there aren't 1000s of deaths to try and pin on Bush and the Republicans.

Ultimately, an accounting will have to be given as to why the politicians personally insured that on election days, the buses ran continuously through the poor areas, the housing projects, the senior centers and the homeless shelters. On top of insuring that the buses ran, they made sure that the police were present to insure rider safety and the politicians insured that the media was present to film and print what the politicians were doing for the less fortunate and less able members of society.

After the elections were over and the same peoples lives were collectively in jeopardy, the same politicians told them "You're on your own".

6 posted on 09/11/2005 6:14:39 PM PDT by fso301
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My off-the-top-of-the-head estimate had been 15/day as "nornmal" for NO. 10x for 5 days would lead to an estimate of 750

If FEMA keeps getting the blame for the hurricane response, Blanco will try to insure that any death for any reason in any affected Parish is attributed to Karina.

7 posted on 09/11/2005 6:19:32 PM PDT by fso301
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Great thinking. Thanks for the link, too.

Since President Bush, Michael Brown, and FEMA were responsible for the well-being of people for the past 10 days, does this mean they actually saved lives?

8 posted on 09/11/2005 6:20:46 PM PDT by syriacus (Ebbert, NOLA DHS, said at 1st - the water is rising slowly + the levee will be fixed in hours.)
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Some might even have died of drug related withdrawal conditions. If they couldn't get a fix......


9 posted on 09/11/2005 7:08:38 PM PDT by rovenstinez (..)
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Since President Bush, Michael Brown, and FEMA were responsible for the well-being of people for the past 10 days, does this mean they actually saved lives?

The media is able to bash FEMA due to a public misperception about the size and role of the agency. FEMA only employees 2500 full-time staff and is not a first response agency.

From FEMA website: See second paragraph from bottom.

10 posted on 09/11/2005 7:54:24 PM PDT by fso301
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Has anyone heard of any report of anyone dying of dehydration or starvation in New Orleans? I might be wrong, but when I think of people starving I have mental images of bloated bellies, sunken faces, in short images such as you see in third world countries, and I haven't seen those images on any network or on even the most left wing blogs.

I just simply cannot imagine that people were dying from lack of food. I am personally a diabetic and I don't go anywhere without more medicine than I need, so I simply don't buy that people going to the Super Dome only took 2 days of supplies with them. It just isn't the way diabetics think regardless of your position on the class totem pole.

The normal mortality rate in this country is 1:113 which calculates to about 4 people per day dying anyway. Using your mortality rate figures coupled with the the thought that the people not evacuated are from a population who's mortality rate must be even higher still, the numbers dead to date don't seem unreasonable.

I'd really be interested in reading a coroner's report when this is all over to see how many drowned, died from lack of food/water or managed to get shot by someone that didn't like them to begin with. (I'm sure a lot of gangs were out popping each other because they knew it would be "free retribution."

I'm betting that 99% of deaths are the result of the immediate hurricane damage (drowning, hit in head by 2x4's and the like) and took place in the first 24 hours before help could arrive.

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11 posted on 09/11/2005 8:46:31 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko
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Has anyone heard of any report of anyone dying of dehydration or starvation in New Orleans?

The only possibility would be abandoned nursing home patients. Once teh looted grocery and liquor store contents were consumed, people could have broken into evacuated houses where some quantity of food and liquid would have been left behind. Once those supplies ran out, the streets were full of water. All a person had to do was strain it through a shirt and boil it for ten minutes to render it potable.

I might be wrong, but when I think of people starving I have mental images of bloated bellies, sunken faces, in short images such as you see in third world countries, and I haven't seen those images on any network or on even the most left wing blogs.

Nor will you see any such images. Even in the Superdome, MRE's were distrubuted to the people daily. The main problems were lack of power, lack of sanitation and lack of security... all the responsibility of criminally negligent local authorities.

12 posted on 09/11/2005 9:11:02 PM PDT by fso301
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Great link -- thanks.


13 posted on 09/11/2005 9:30:49 PM PDT by syriacus (Ebbert, NOLA DHS, said at 1st - the water is rising slowly + the levee will be fixed in hours.)
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I've saaid this about a week ago. Death totals figures were Awwaaaay out of line with what we were seeing.

Good to see others were thinking , too


14 posted on 09/12/2005 5:45:12 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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