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Father and daughter's hike ended suddenly by grizzly
Seattle Post-intelligencer via HoustonChronicle.com ^ | Sept. 10, 2005 | CAROL SMITH

Posted on 09/11/2005 4:46:29 PM PDT by Archidamus

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To: U S Army EOD

Let me guess, to shoot yourself when the bear starts attacking? :-P


41 posted on 09/11/2005 5:14:18 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Wycowboy
A better choice would be a couple of cans of pepper spray.

Why take condiments? May as well bring along some A-1 steak sauce.

42 posted on 09/11/2005 5:15:11 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Spktyr

No you shoot the person next to you in the knee and run. A .22 cal derringer is easy to hide from the game warden.


43 posted on 09/11/2005 5:15:18 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (LET ME KNOW WHERE HANOI JANE FONDA IS WHEN SHE TOURS)
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To: Spktyr

" something that blows enough limbs off the bear (rocket or contact grenade or something) that it physically cannot pursue you."



Now that's a grisly scene....shades of The Holy Grail: "But I cut off your arms!" "No you didn't! No you didn't."


44 posted on 09/11/2005 5:15:46 PM PDT by macamadamia
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To: Archidamus

And we don't hunt these things why? Kill them push them back into the far wilderness.


45 posted on 09/11/2005 5:15:47 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: dr_who_2
Doesn't sound like a handgun.

See for yourself.


46 posted on 09/11/2005 5:16:06 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: U S Army EOD

Heh, I figured that that was the other possible answer.


47 posted on 09/11/2005 5:17:28 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Disambiguator

So I take it, that shoots .45 cal long colt also?


48 posted on 09/11/2005 5:17:59 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (LET ME KNOW WHERE HANOI JANE FONDA IS WHEN SHE TOURS)
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To: dr_who_2
Guess it would be better than nothing but you would need a clean head(brain)shot.This is not likely on a charging bear.
You need something that can stop the animal with a shot to its vitals and even that wont put it down on the spot.
I don`t have a handgun but to anyone in the know,would any handgun,not a Thompson or equivalent have the penetration necessary to dispatch a bear short of extremely close in the skull?
49 posted on 09/11/2005 5:18:46 PM PDT by carlr
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To: Disambiguator
Oh. Didn't read that carefully. Barrel length of two inches. Accurate when the bear is right on top of you.
50 posted on 09/11/2005 5:19:02 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: U S Army EOD

The .454 chambering does. This piece is also available in .480 Ruger.


51 posted on 09/11/2005 5:19:18 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: dr_who_2

No guns "allowed", so I NEVER visit "National Park's"!

I have found that there is plenty of uncrowded land to play on where I DO go armed, when no one points the nice places out by making "Parks" out of them they are usually not so overused.

Bears are the least of the problem outside AK, thugs, druggies and rapist are all very fond of the "NO GUNS" NP law!

Remember the three women killed at Yosemite a couple of years ago?
No guns for them, just rape and death.

Boycott any place that does not allow you to go armed, every time you can.


52 posted on 09/11/2005 5:19:24 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: dr_who_2

300 mag rifle.


53 posted on 09/11/2005 5:20:41 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: festus
Please tell me that you are joking. Please.

No joke. Check out reply #25. I agree with everything ImpeachandRemove says with the possible exception of the .357 caliber. I own a .357 Mag and I would never trust it on a bear above a can of the pepper spray.

54 posted on 09/11/2005 5:20:58 PM PDT by Wycowboy
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To: Wycowboy

Pepper Spray?

Uh, OK, I guess if you are going to be eaten you may as well be spicy!


55 posted on 09/11/2005 5:21:08 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Nov3

Because of environmentalists who think we have no rightto go hiking in national parks that we paid for.


56 posted on 09/11/2005 5:21:22 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: dr_who_2

" Should people be allowed to carry weapons in national parks"

So, you gotta go through a metal detector before going hiking in national parks in your neck of the woods or something?


57 posted on 09/11/2005 5:22:35 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: carlr

Not really. Any handgun is chancy against a bear, even the very largest caliber handguns.

After seeing what a bear can do to a person, I'll take a .45 (whatever you carry, you have to be able to HIT and SCORE on the bear for it to be worthwhile, and that means a semiauto for me) at a minimum. My preferred weapon for hiking or back country anti-bear armament is a 12ga pump or semi shotgun with magnum slugs.


58 posted on 09/11/2005 5:22:58 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: dr_who_2

Absolutely. I will never go to a national park for this reason. I do not go to places where I am disarmed.


59 posted on 09/11/2005 5:23:19 PM PDT by therut
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To: Spktyr

The bear always eats the slowest person.

Actually, unless I was hunting the bear, I would carry something like a .44 Mag Carbine. I would never go in an area where I could surprise a bear with a bolt action rifle. You are only going to get one shot. The best thing of all to have with you would be a large dog. While the bear and dog were going at it, you would have more time. Plus the dog would normally smell the bear. That would be your best of all insurance.

If I was bear hunting, I would not use anything less than some type of .34 Mag rifle. I would never go alone and at least one person would always have a automatic rifle such as the .44 Mag I just mentioned.


60 posted on 09/11/2005 5:23:40 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (LET ME KNOW WHERE HANOI JANE FONDA IS WHEN SHE TOURS)
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