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Sheriff (of St. Bernard Parish) says killing pets of forced evacuees 'more humane'
Dallas Morning News via WorldNetDaily ^ | Sept. 10, 2005 | Dallas Morning News

Posted on 09/10/2005 12:37:24 PM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: Goodgirlinred

Considering St Bernard Parish took the most damage and didn't have a large population, I feel safe in assuming it was only him, and that he's already had the piss beat out of him.


241 posted on 09/11/2005 7:14:25 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Honor - Dignity - Courage)
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To: Goodgirlinred; All
Well I think that what WILL come out of all of this is that any rescue operations in the future will include animal rescue groups from the get go.
These animal rescue groups are privately supported, have their own funds and volunteers and in no way impede the rescue of people.

The lesson learned was that;
1.People love their animals, its just a fact.
2.Many people will not evacuate a disaster WITHOUT thier pet therefore
3.Saving pets will save human life

242 posted on 09/11/2005 8:25:34 PM PDT by apackof2 (Never underestimate the power of a fuzzy friend!)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Slings and Arrows; Gimme

Ping to post 222.

Thanks to Gimme for the update: the cruel jerk was suspended from his job!!!!!!!!!


243 posted on 09/11/2005 9:33:16 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Gimme; FairOpinion; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; quantim; republicangel; Bahbah; Beaker; ...
[Dog-killing sheriff] Mike Minton was suspended by the St Barnard Parish police dept it was reported yesterday. Yey.

I hope he was suspended by his b*!!s.

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244 posted on 09/11/2005 9:39:55 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Go Sharon! And take Peres with you!)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Nope, just his b*lls.


245 posted on 09/11/2005 9:55:34 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Honor - Dignity - Courage - Troll Consumption)
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To: Lady Jag

Now I'm thinking of "Pickup Oysters."


246 posted on 09/11/2005 10:32:42 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Go Sharon! And take Peres with you!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Wonderful! Great news to start my day! I hope he NEVER gets his job back. He should go into garbage collecting or something. A job where he does not come in contact with any living creature.


247 posted on 09/12/2005 5:29:42 AM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Lady Jag
LOL! I certainly hope he has! He lost his job, too, I just read. Yey!
248 posted on 09/12/2005 5:31:21 AM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: panaxanax

Thank you. I am a post 2000 Freeper. I was busy trying to keep my husband alive prior to 4/2001.

I think that guy is an idiot!


249 posted on 09/12/2005 5:34:50 AM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: apackof2

I certainly hope that you are right.

Also, hopefully, they will have a REAL evacuation plan and will run drills so that they can carry it off when it is needed.


250 posted on 09/12/2005 5:36:39 AM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Goodgirlinred

You are very welcome and I agree. Hope all turned out well for you during your pre-Freeper days.


251 posted on 09/12/2005 6:29:00 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: Killborn

***BTW, where are those PETA whackos? One of the few times they could be really useful and they screw it up, again.***

Because they're too busy "saving" the snakes and toads.


252 posted on 09/12/2005 6:59:54 AM PDT by kitkat ("We're not going to let anybody frighten us from our great love of freedom." GWB, 7/22/05))
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To: FairOpinion

Here is another article about shooting pets. As horrible as it sounds, I am not sure what choice they had. Also info on St. Ritas nursing home.



Nursing home strewn with decaying bodies

BY VICTOR EPSTEIN BLOOMBERG NEWS

Posted on Thursday, September 8, 2005

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The 60 residents of St. Rita’s Nursing Home had a plan to evacuate before Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans. Instead, the staff and patients remained as the storm flooded the low-lying parish of St. Bernard.

Because of that decision, the bodies of at least 15 residents and possibly as many as 35 are now decomposing inside the one-story facility in this area about six miles east of downtown where 67,000 people once lived.

The body of one elderly woman, clothed in a thin housedress, legs spread wide, sits on the concrete floor of the front patio. A 2-foot-high statue of the Virgin Mary still stands in the lobby, facing outward. Nearby, the thin, bony body of an elderly man is draped over the back of a chair where the receding waters left it. Outside, debris covers the roof of a Hummer sport utility vehicle, which area officials say belongs to a staff member. "When we saw that Hummer still in the parking lot a few days ago, we knew we were in trouble because that’s the first vehicle they would have used to escape," Parish Councilman Tony Ricky Melerine said Tuesday afternoon.

Officials of St. Bernard Parish, a bedroom and retirement community bounded by water on three sides, said the parish death toll may reach 500. They blamed the lawlessness of the inner city for diverting resources and attention from them.

The shortage of manpower and impassability of roads prevented neighboring residents from getting inside St. Rita’s until Tuesday, nine days after Katrina. "It doesn’t look like anyone has been here yet to make a count," Melerine said as he poled a skiff over the black muck of St. Bernard’s flooded streets. "This was my district. We gonna have to do it."

Inside St. Rita’s, the signature of the brown high-water mark reaches a foot shy of the ceiling inside the football-field-size structure. Six inches of sewage, mud and putrefied tissue coat the floor in a slippery, dark brown scum strewn with broken furniture, bodies and wheelchairs. "This is the worst thing I’ve ever seen, and I drug bodies to the levee after Hurricane Betsy," said 60-year-old Raymond Couture. He and Melerine chopped their way out of the councilman’s attic with axes at the height of the storm. They’ve been working 20hour days since.

Officials fear the horror at St. Rita’s could be repeated elsewhere in St. Bernard Parish. The community’s four other large nursing homes and assisted-living facilities followed their parish evacuation plan. Still, it’s unclear how many smaller centers were emptied. OBLITERATED COMMUNITIES

Parish firefighters say the communities of Delacroix and Yscloskey are completely gone. They lay outside the protective levees and may be nothing more than prefixes in the Greater New Orleans telephone book today: 265, 267, 676 and 684.

St. Bernard must also contend with a fuel spill at the Murphy Oil USA Inc. refinery. The community’s three refineries provide 15 percent of the nation’s gasoline, according to Parish President Henry "Junior" Rodriguez.

Only five of the sheriff’s 75 squad cars are running, and every member of the Parish Council is homeless, he said. "We have collected more than 80 bodies, and we still haven’t reached the worst part of the parish," Rodriguez said Tuesday from an emergency operations center inside an Exxon Mobil refinery. "There’s not a home left here that’s livable. There may be 25 homes out of 25,000 that are intact."

Cows, horses and dogs wander the streets of St. Bernard Parish, limping between ruined cars and boats. Elsewhere in the parish, packs of feral dogs are being shot. "Most of the animals are dead," said Rodriguez. "The dogs have not eaten, and they’re starting to get to the bodies. We had a pack of four pit bulls kill a horse."

Every home and business bears some scar from Katrina. Splintered telephone poles lean drunkenly across streets or hang in the air, suspended from tangled wires. "We have a lot of elderly residents who moved here because there’s so little crime," said Rodriguez. "They came because it was so safe."

Unlike in downtown, no one reported looting or gunfire in St. Bernard Parish. But a relentless surge of water pouring over levees pushed the parish’s populace up into their attics and onto their roofs.

Survivors say nature unleashed more fury on this community than on any other parish in the area. "It was worse in St. Bernard than in New Orleans," said parish firefighter Daren Schaeffer, 41. "We had 20 feet of water in some places."

Parish officials said the Federal Emergency Management Agency did not show up until Monday, a week after the storm. On Tuesday, FEMA approved $31 million in immediate aid and dropped off a mobile command center for the parish government.

Members of a FEMA disaster mortuary response team were expected to begin working in the parish Wednesday. National Guard troops are scarcer in St. Bernard than in New Orleans’ central business district, where truckloads of troops still hunt looters. "We’re glad FEMA finally showed up, but for the first five days after the storm, no one even came looking to see how we were doing," said parish Councilman Judy Hoffmeister. "Now they say they’re going to give us everything we need, but we were in desperate need of it days and days ago."

Generators from the Department of Homeland Security arrived Tuesday to power St. Bernard’s water plant, Parish President Rodriguez said on the parish’s Web site. He said the water level fell 6 more inches Tuesday and that five of eight pumps in the area were working. HEAPS OF BODIES, FURNITURE

Each closed door inside St. Rita’s darkened hallways is a nightmare. Some are blocked by tangled heaps of furniture and bodies. The body count is cursory. The searchers fear falling into the muck, whose composition is not in doubt.

Fifteen bodies were counted inside the building and many more are suspected of being there or of having floated outside. Some doors wedged shut with debris could not be opened at all.

The staff at St. Rita’s managed to float 20 patients on mattresses across a half-mile of floodwater to nearby Beauregard High School as the water level rose, said Couture, one of the rescuers.

One died on the way, two died there, and a fourth died afterward in the hospital, he said. Those deaths pushed the confirmed body count to 19. The nursing home held 65 patients and at least six staff members when the storm hit. "The water level rose from the ground to 8 feet in 15 minutes, and it did that all over the parish," said Melerine, the parish councilman.

Parish officials called the owner of St. Rita’s before the storm to ask her why she hadn’t evacuated patients, said Dr. Paul Verrette, medical director for the St. Bernard Office of Emergency Preparedness. "We have pleaded with those people for years to execute their evacuation plan," Verrette said. "They never do."

St. Bernard Coroner Bryan Bertucci said he called nursing home owner Mabel Mangano during a Parish Council meeting at 2 p.m. on Aug. 28, a day before the storm. He said he asked her why she had not followed the evacuation plan she filed with the parish and removed her patients to Baton Rouge and Lafayette on the two buses set aside for them. "She told me she had a generator and five nurses and had gotten the permission of the patients’ families to stay put," Bertucci said. "Then she asked me if I thought the council would be mad at her."

Mangano could not be reached for comment. Her whereabouts and safety are unknown. "This is beyond the council now," Rodriguez, the parish president, said. "I suspect that she’ll wish she had left by the time this is done, if she doesn’t already." Information for this article was contributed by Daniel Acker and Todd Zeranski of Bloomberg News.


253 posted on 09/12/2005 7:06:43 AM PDT by gulf1609
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To: gulf1609

"Here is another article about shooting pets. As horrible as it sounds, I am not sure what choice they had. Also info on St. Ritas nursing home. "

Did you see the film clip?? These were not mean pitt bull dogs, that were chewing on bodies and certainly not those described in the article. They were friendly and the National Guard was giving them water and food and the sheriffs office, instead of search and rescue was following the guard and shooting the dogs that the Guard had just given water and fed!!!("more humane" is BS).
Even General Honore addressed it when he said to get cages. I dont think he said kill them!!!


254 posted on 09/12/2005 8:21:10 AM PDT by Gimme
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To: livius

"Animals can't think and don't know why they're miserable and hurting, and often the best thing to do is spare them this suffering."

Oh BS. If there is a chance that those pets might of been saved after the search and rescue, then imo, the humane thing is exactly what the good General said, save the pets and get some cages. They should not of been left to some renagade Sgt. shooting them for sport. That is vicous.
It aint DOG SEASON. Big a smile to someones face that thought they lost everything including their pet. Thanks to Sgt. Minton and his group of sharp shooters, some have.



255 posted on 09/12/2005 8:52:46 AM PDT by Gimme
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To: kitkat

Probably.


256 posted on 09/12/2005 10:56:54 AM PDT by Killborn (God bless the rescuers, God bless the Commander in Chief, and God bless America.)
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To: Gimme

I was only referring to the article I posted where there were reports of dogs and human bodies. I never saw a film clip nor mentioned it being more humane. I agree about doing all you can do to save the pets. My only reasoning for posting that article was to show that there might be a reason some were taking the actions they were. I was in no way condoning the actions of those who found it a sport or even just an easier way to deal with the dogs. With out being too graphic, I will just say that I was thinking about how I would feel if it were my relatives that were out in the open.


257 posted on 09/12/2005 12:47:40 PM PDT by gulf1609
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To: panaxanax

Thank you. No, it did not turn out well. My husband died April 22, 2001.


258 posted on 09/12/2005 2:32:37 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: elbucko
I hear you. My dogs are also great judges of character.

They can sense someone thinking bad thoughts.

259 posted on 09/12/2005 2:36:10 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Gimme

Because Honore is not stuck on stupid while the Louisiana muckety mucks still are.

Being able to have your pet with you would be an important support to morale after having been through a deadly and devastating flood (I can't yet believe these folks who are saying that fewer than 200 have perished due to that flood).


260 posted on 09/12/2005 2:39:58 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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