Posted on 09/10/2005 7:19:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie
Dinasour Media bias in action, here is how the story was posted yesterday by AP. Notice how AP edited out the actual QUOTES that DIRECTLY contradicted their spin lie and had the writer write the story interjected their own interpretation of what was said by the sources. Here is yesterdays AP story.
Gen. Steven Blum, chief of the National Guard Bureau, said that "arguably" a day or so of response time was lost due to the absence of the Mississippi National Guard's 155th Infantry Brigade and Louisiana's 256th Infantry Brigade, each with thousands of troops in Iraq. Blum said that to replace those units' command and control equipment, he dispatched personnel from Guard division headquarters from Kansas and Minnesota shortly after the storm struck. Rep. Gene Taylor, D-Miss., whose waterfront home here was washed away in the storm, told reporters that the absence of the deployed Mississippi Guard units made it harder for local officials to coordinate their initial response. "What you lost was a lot of local knowledge," Taylor said, as well as equipment that could have been used in recovery operations.
"The best equipment went with them, for obvious reasons," especially communications equipment, he added. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said this week that the Pentagon has the ability to cope with both Katrina and the Iraq war, saying, "We can and will do both." Blum said that overall, the Iraq mission for Guard units across the nation is not limiting the military's ability to expand and continue the rescue and recovery operations in storm-battered states. "Iraq and other overseas commitments do not inhibit our ability to sustain this effort here
How did these helos from Army, NG, CG do 2000 rescues a day ?
W or w/o permission?
Should they have left the people on the roofs and just take pics?
What's your point?
http://www.dailyrepublic.com/articles/2005/09/09/top_stories/news02.txt
Permission from state authority is not "BS". We have laws that give States authority and emergency response is one of those areas of authority. It is so fundamental that I recall being taught about Posse Commitatus in one of the very first classes I received in Army officer basic.
It is really a basic concept. Try this on. When a dictator wants to seize power, he declares a state of emergency and pushes local authorities out. Our constitution is designed to prevent that.
This emergency system has worked acceptably for several decades. Now because we have a very large disaster to which LOCAL AUTHORITIES failed to respond you want to ignore the check on despotism that our system of government is designed to provide?
Think this through.
"That was Coast Guard helos that you saw and not armed forces." That is about the most uninformed response I have seen lately. The first few hours it was CG, but Navy, Marines and Air Force helos soon followed. Are you aware of the Navy crew that diverted from their original mission to respond to CG plea for help, rescued a bunch of folks, and ended up cleaning the base kennel?
You are not responding to his point. The agreement between Texas and Louisiana would not be subject to the laws.
You are still wrong.
The coast guard's presence has already been explained to you repeatedly. National guard troops from Lousiana are under the state government's control, as can be NG troops from adjoining states depending on pacts and agreements. Army, navy, and Marine choppers can be flown by NG troops under certain circumstances, but army, navy, and marine personnel cannot be called into action without express permission of the state's governor. Perhaps the governor gave permission for those entities to perform these specific functions, or maybe the images you claim to have seen are from rescue operations outside the jurisdiction of Lousiana.
Regardless, the law is the law, and the federal government has no business taking over the duties of a state any time an emergency occurs. Especially duties that require security operations. Even if the governor and local officials are too ignorant to be able to function on their own.
true
Katrina - a category 4 hurricane that hit New Orleans on the mouth of the Mississippi seems to be an afterthought in all this reporting. You don't just shake off the effects of an unprecidented, devastating hurricane like that and pretend everything is gonna go well immediately afterwards. That's the real spin I see.
Actually hit East of NO. It sideswiped NO. It would be an even bigger mess if it had hit head on.
Prepositioned assets made available to State of LA via FEMA as part of their responsiblity to corrdinate assets once a a Decleration of Emergency was made. FEMA's 2nd in command, overseeing operations in NO is CG Admiral Loy. Been pointed out dozens of times. spanalot is just a yahoo who will not pay attention to any facts that contridict his feelings.
You got a source for this that names names? Somebody need a boot to the ass for this.
That's the Coast Guard's mission. FEMA's mission was, in the plan, to provide follow on support for evacuees. They were leaning forward and had provisions, and people (including non government people like the Red Cross, in position to do that. Not as close as one might have liked, but until the storm hit, they couldn't risk having those pre positioned people and provisions taken out by the storm itself. The Coast Guard is by it's nature more mobile than fleets of SUVs and 18 wheelers. IIRC, the Air Force (out of Eglin) and Navy, off the Bataan, were on scene about the same time as the Coast Guard, and the National Guard helicopters. But all those were mostly doing rescue work, not bringing in supplies or ground forces. That was the plan. The National Guard had at least 300 troops on site before the storm hit, along with provisions to allow the folks in the superdome to ride out the storm. However those people were not supposed to be in the Superdome beyond the next day, so the provisions for longer than say two days, were not there.
The mayor, by not deploying the buses as per the plan, and remember the superdome and other areas were high and dry until Wednesday, screwed the pooch. Then there was the other little problem of rescue helicopters being fired upon from the area of the 'dome, and of the buses being rushed by mobs which scared the drivers off in many cases.
We think. The problem is the public tends to react. They are no longer in the business of reporting facts, they are in the business of changing minds. The media alone cost Bush a huge and I mean 10 million vote landslide. They are not as effective as they once were, but they still get the job done for the DNC. They should all die.
Thanks, MNJohnnie.
There have been conflicting stories, even today, about what happened. The Red Cross and Salvation army were right there with the aid supplies (how do you suppose they got them) but were turned back by the LA authorities.
Evacuation is the responsibility of the local government. I recall clearly hearing General Honore asking (via the media) to PLEASE have the mayor contact him because he could not find the guy.
I appreciate the fact that you have no loyalty or alliance with the US Constitution, but the rest of us do.
When monkeys might fly out my butt. Information to do what with? You haven't caught a clue yet given what you should already know. I don't know if you just crave the attention or what your problem is. But you ain't right. How old are you anyway?
I can't say it any clearer; you're a troll with an agenda.
Ain't happenin' friend, but good luck anyway.
BTW, pay no attention to spamalot who's been hijacking threads for days in an effort to skew perceptions of the Dim's complicity in the carnage.
FGS
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