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Vietnamese evacuees shun shelters - Sticking together cuts them off from government aid
Houston Chronicle ^ | Sept. 9, 2005 | EDWARD HEGSTROM

Posted on 09/10/2005 6:36:51 AM PDT by angkor

With Vietnamese evacuees continuing to pour into Houston, some Asian representatives worry the community may be trying to do too much on its own.

The uncounted thousands of Vietnamese storm victims are not going to the Astrodome or the George R. Brown Convention Center to seek help from the government, leaders say. Instead, many gather at Hong Kong City Mall on Bellaire, a privately run mall where they are being connected with ample free food and housing from fellow Vietnamese — help that cannot last indefinitely.

"The problem is, because the Vietnamese are not in the shelters, they are not receiving assistance" from the government and the American Red Cross, said Nguyen Dinh Thang, the head of Boat People S.O.S., a group that has helped Vietnamese from its Hong Kong City Mall office.

Many of the Vietnamese from New Orleans and Mississippi are staying with family and friends, while others are staying at Vietnamese Catholic churches and Buddhist temples. Some need medical attention, and many continue to look for lost relatives.

Seeks wife and daughter Nguyen Van Thanh, 37, a shrimper, was at sea when the storm neared, and he called his wife via cell phone to tell her to wait for him in New Orleans. His boat landed a day or two after the hurricane hit, and he was shocked to find the city abandoned and his family missing. He made his way to Houston last week and has stayed at the Vietnam Buddhist Temple while putting the word out on Vietnamese radio that he is looking for his wife and 4-year-old daughter.

"I'm very afraid," he said through an interpreter.

Some Vietnamese say they expect to stay in Houston permanently, which should solidify the city's role as the Vietnamese cultural center for the Gulf Coast. Though no one has an exact estimate, leaders say they think well more than 10,000 Vietnamese evacuees are now in Houston, on top of the 60,000 who already live in the region.

Quan Huynh, the president of the Vietnamese American Community in Louisiana, said he has talked to a number of evacuees who first went to Dallas and Austin but are coming to Houston because they hear it is the center for resettlement.

About 24,000 Vietnamese lived in Louisiana and another 5,000 each lived in Mississippi and Alabama, according to the 2000 Census. Many worked in the fishing industry, which meant they lived in the areas hardest hit by Katrina: New Orleans; Gulfport and Biloxi, Miss.; Mobile and Bayou la Batre, Ala.

With shrimp prices so low and diesel prices so high, many Vietnamese shrimpers were considering leaving the fishing towns even before Katrina hit. Pham Thanh, a shrimper from New Orleans, said he won't go back, even though he bought a house there less than a month ago.

"It used to be Louisiana, but now we call it Lousy-ana," said Thanh, who is staying at the Buddhist temple.

Some seeking aid Some Vietnamese are starting to take advantage of more mainstream services. Word spread recently that Catholic Charities was handing out $200 in cash to storm victims and $100 in grocery vouchers, and more than 4,000 Vietnamese showed up, Catholic Charities' Bob Fleming said.

"If you had driven by on Monday, you would have thought it was Saigon and we were lifting helicopters off the roof," Fleming said.

YMCA International Services also began helping a few families this week, said director Jeff Watkins.

"The Vietnamese are not plugged into the mainstream services, and they need to be," said Watkins, who speaks fluent Vietnamese. "The people who were coming into our office were getting desperate."

Some had been staying in hotels they could no longer afford, while others had worn out their welcome at the houses of friends and relatives.

Asian leaders met with Mayor Bill White and City councilmen Gordon Quan and M.J. Khan earlier this week to consider ways to coordinate relief efforts among Asians.

But Quan later acknowledged it was proving difficult to get the different Asian groups to work together.

"It's like herding cats," he said. "The groups each want to do it on their own."

While conceding that it is a sensitive topic, some Vietnamese leaders say their community is reluctant to seek help at the Astrodome in part because of a history of racial tensions between Vietnamese and blacks.

The Vietnamese perceive the Astrodome and convention center as being shelters for blacks, said Thang, the Boat People S.O.S. head.

Katrina hit less than nine months after the tsunami devastated much of Asia.

Thai Ambassador Kasit Piromya came to Houston on Thursday for a series of events including ThaiFest, a downtown festival being held today to highlight Thai food and culture.

The festival was originally designed to thank Houston for help after the tsunami.

But now, the Thai are returning the favor. After Katrina came ashore, organizers of ThaiFest announced that the money raised will be used to help the hurricane victims.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aid; evacuees; handout; katrina; selfsufficient; vietnamese; vietnameseamericans
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To: angkor
"The problem is, because the Vietnamese are not in the shelters, they are not receiving assistance"

How dare they be self reliant and solve their own problems.

41 posted on 09/10/2005 8:03:14 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Artemis Webb
We need to show the mass that everything is not RACE related. You got to be so sick by now to see these race baiters make this whole disaster into race issues...
42 posted on 09/10/2005 8:04:30 AM PDT by Toidylop
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To: Unmarked Package; All
safe to assume that if the Houston Chronicle criticizes a group or its behavior, the group should be congratulated

As mentioned above, the Chronic's major source for this article (and headline) is Boat People S.O.S., which is a federally funded organization, not a VN community organization.

I looked into volunteering for Boat People S.O.S. some time ago, to no avail. They've got federal $$$, they're all set, thank you very much.

I won't say more about their leadership, it's your typical government-sponsored "helping" organization. Meaning politically correct and "inclusive" in all aspects of that term. The Vietnamese who don't find succor in the Vietnamese community.

43 posted on 09/10/2005 8:05:39 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Toidylop
We need to show the mass that everything is not RACE related.

You're right, it's culture related.

The culture of entitlement versus the culture of self-sufficiency.

44 posted on 09/10/2005 8:08:23 AM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor

They are hard working and intelligent people, they have had to endure a lot of hardhips and yet they emerged stronger Americans.


45 posted on 09/10/2005 8:10:19 AM PDT by stopem
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To: Lucky2

Heck, the other evacuees in Houston think they're idiots.


46 posted on 09/10/2005 8:12:32 AM PDT by Sometimes A River ("The leaves have broken on Lake Ponktran" - WKAT 1360 AM Miami Newsreader)
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To: stopem
yet they emerged stronger Americans.

What they have in America is what they wanted for the Republic of South Vietnam.

47 posted on 09/10/2005 8:12:48 AM PDT by angkor
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To: stopem

The rest of America was like that once. Otherwise, this country wouldn't be here now. And, a lot of us still are, but the self-sufficient seldom get the headlines.


48 posted on 09/10/2005 8:13:07 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Acts 2:38
"Heck, the other evacuees in Houston think they're idiots."
Geez... You don't know what to laugh or cry here!!!
49 posted on 09/10/2005 8:15:23 AM PDT by Toidylop
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To: Toidylop

Time to cry friend...the Entitlement mentality is firmly entrenched in the psyche's of our urban classes.


50 posted on 09/10/2005 8:17:55 AM PDT by Sometimes A River ("The leaves have broken on Lake Ponktran" - WKAT 1360 AM Miami Newsreader)
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To: angkor
With Vietnamese evacuees continuing to pour into Houston, some Asian representatives worry the community may be trying to do too much on its own.

The first sentence of this "article" says it all.

The liberals are having dry heaves that people can take care of themselves.

51 posted on 09/10/2005 8:18:07 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: MizSterious

That's the truth, doesn't sell newspapers.
Course seems that lately all MSM spews out are lib agenda's.

(sidenote, wish this board had an edit/delete feature)


52 posted on 09/10/2005 8:18:50 AM PDT by stopem
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To: Acts 2:38
Heck, the other evacuees in Houston think they're idiots.

I don't think they really care too much. They'll succeed once again, the third time around for many (e.g., leaving North Vietnam, leaving South Vietnam, now leaving Katrina).

People have no idea how tough and persistent the Vietnamese are. Personally I find them mind-boggling.

53 posted on 09/10/2005 8:20:38 AM PDT by angkor
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To: stopem; Admin Moderator
(sidenote, wish this board had an edit/delete feature)

Actually, it does. You have my permission to delete my posts to you.

54 posted on 09/10/2005 8:21:13 AM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: angkor

Send some of them to Northeast Texas. There is a good business opportunity here: we haven't been able to find a good Vietnamese or Thai reataurant within 100 miles of Atlanta, TX.


55 posted on 09/10/2005 8:21:47 AM PDT by TXnMA (Iraq & Afghanistan: Bush's "Bug-Zappers"...)
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To: angkor

I meant that the totally Gov't-dependent evacuees think the Viet's are idiots.


56 posted on 09/10/2005 8:23:04 AM PDT by Sometimes A River ("The leaves have broken on Lake Ponktran" - WKAT 1360 AM Miami Newsreader)
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To: Dane
The liberals are having dry heaves that people can take care of themselves.

Boat People S.O.S. is a federally-funded Vietnamese "community" organization (NOT).

And, yes, it therefore embraces the liberal and PC values which aren't generally representative of the Vietnamese-American community.

57 posted on 09/10/2005 8:24:10 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Acts 2:38

Yes, understood from your initial post.


58 posted on 09/10/2005 8:25:40 AM PDT by angkor
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To: TXnMA
we haven't been able to find a good Vietnamese or Thai reataurant within 100 miles of Atlanta, TX.

With the evacs and related destruction of the Gulf shrimping industry, you should be seeing one soon :)

59 posted on 09/10/2005 8:28:31 AM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor
they're smart to avoid becoming like another minority group that depends on the government aid..... Wow did you see all the Vietnamese looting...I mean they are a REAL MINORITY in New Orleans..

They really went after the "man"...

Bwahahhahahahaha... African-Americans must be so proud of the leadership they've chosen .....they sure don't want to get uppity like Clarence Thomas, Condeleeza Rice, or Colin Powell.... or they'll get slammed for "acting white".

Nope, better to eat off the Democratic masters table scraps and keep your head down, play the legal 'race card" to shakedown somebody for money. Cause if you open a business, work hard for a living or join the Armed Forces you're just "acting white" and not "fighting the powers that be!".

60 posted on 09/10/2005 8:30:40 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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