Holdouts to Be Removed From New Orleans

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[sandbar]

>>>They might even do something that some Big Brother types would really fear: rebuild the city themselves.>>>

Has common sense totally left FR tonight?

And where would they gather the materials to do this? Maybe they can grow their own wilderness in the middle of the French Quarter?

[Happy2BMe]

Black evacuees ask if Utah will really accept them...

[sandbar]

>>>They are no more of a risk now as a disease vector than they were a month ago.>>>

Really? So we waste all that money on DDT in places Malaria is common?

[grwcfl537]

Out of curiosity, I wonder where the water from the toilet goes since I assume the water treatment plant is not working.

Uptown is high ground, not as high as the Quarter, so gravity takes it to the river or the lake. Don't recall any canals left uptown.

Descendants of early settlers are not necessarily rich. My family first arrived in the area in 1711.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Just unbelievable. Shooting pets, and hancuffing old people.

[tfecw]

"Really? So we waste all that money on DDT in places Malaria is common?"

We don't get to waste money on DDT. It's banned remember. Just another case where the guvment knew best. (hint, i'm being sarcastic)

[_Jim]

Nice dodge there Bill; wonder where you learned those tricks (MAYBE your namesake?)

You failed to address the issues at hand, seeking instead to totally ignore a serious issue which has reared its head throughout mankind's existance; one would think that you might just grasp the weight and gravity, but, I don't think so.

You're too mired is 'some other world', seeking instead to avoid the reality of contagin and disease that human waste represents ...

[DocRock]

"Any time you produce a gun by the handle in front of a cop, he takes it as a threat, on a calm peaceful day it is a threat.

I have gone frame by frame and can't find this woman holding her firearm in any threatening manner. In particular, as you state, producing her firearm by the handle.

These guys have been getting shot at alot lately (good thing gangbangers are crappy shots. I never see them at the range.) They are keenly aware that being shot by an old lady is as dangerous as anyone else.

Then they shouldn't be putting themselves in harms way by violating the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 14th Amendments.

You would do the same.

I would not. I would tell my superior that they were issuing unlawful orders, and I would get a witness. Preferably, I would get it in writing.

They weren't using lethal force or even excessive force. Just dealing with the situation.

I hope your mom, wife or daughter never has this "situation". Say for instance if a train derails in your area and the authorities wish to disarm them and put them in a hell hole like the superdoom, (not a typo), with rapist.

FRegards,
DocRock

[Happy2BMe]

Right On!

[TheSpottedOwl]

WHAT are these people doing for sanitary sewer services again?

Maybe they're on septic tanks, not city sewer? Maybe they dug latrines or outhouses?

[Antonello]

And where would they gather the materials to do this? Maybe they can grow their own wilderness in the middle of the French Quarter?

I don't know. Maybe eventually the state will allow them passage over the perfectly usable roads without fear of being denied safe return to their homes. Maybe they will start small and rebuild naturally. Maybe they won't feel constrained to honor someone's timetable or demands that the city be rebuilt as it was. Maybe they just want to set up their own little neighborhood as a town for now, building businesses and new homes as needed.

Maybe we should get out of the way and let them answer your question by demonstration.

[the Deejay]

I have to admit that FR is the only place I have EVER been accused of being liberal.

Same here.

Makes you wonder doesn't it?

Just how conserative this site truly is.

I'm a member of several message boards and this is the only one where discussions must be kept one-sided.

I was only using logical reasoning and was call a dem. [shrug.]

[sandbar]

Yes, those pesky facts. Of course the 'facts' that freeandfreezing posted are for NORMAL MOSQUITO activity. Why don't we gather some facts involved in flood situations.

Vector-borne diseases

Floods may indirectly lead to an increase in vector-borne diseases through the expansion in the number and range of vector habitats. Standing water caused by heavy rainfall or overflow of rivers can act as breeding sites for mosquitoes, and therefore enhance the potential for exposure of the disaster-affected population and emergency workers to infections such as dengue, malaria and West Nile fever. Flooding may initially flush out mosquito breeding, but it comes back when the waters recede. The lag time is usually around 6-8 weeks before the onset of a malaria epidemic.

[spunkets]

You've been talking like the flood waters are an open sewer. Can you explain how the sewage enters the waters? Can you even setup the proper diffusion equations for each step out of all the toilets. I say the amount of sewage is negligible. You've got natural humas production and storm sewer traps that probably put more Ecoil in there than any link through a toilet to the sewer did.

[sandbar]

>>>Ok, let me use some small words so you can comprehend understand.

You know, you are so clever. Do you do standup for a living? I thought not.>>>

She's one to talk. I've tried to explain three times that there is a difference between the usual mosquito population from the bayou and the waters that include raw sewage and rotting corpses. Can't quite grasp how the latter would be a little more dangerous and those flying insects might not stay it the area that isn't flooded. Like where warm blooded creatures are?

[sandbar]

>>>We don't get to waste money on DDT. It's banned remember. Just another case where the guvment knew best. (hint, i'm being sarcastic)>>>

Damn! Left the "d" off the "waste". I knew we banned DDT, but went and posted as if I have flown back in time or something. Sorry. ;o)

[sandbar]

>>>Maybe they're on septic tanks, not city sewer? Maybe they dug latrines or outhouses?>>>

I doubt they have septic tanks in the city of NO. Digging latrines isn't the most sanitary either.

[texasbluebell]

I hate to break it to you, but at least in St. Bernard Parish, police are now shooting people's animals right in front of them, if the people will not evacuate.

Also, there has been issued a 3 day limit for the rescue orgs to get any that are strays, at the end of those 3 days, well now it's 2 days, the PD are going to start shooting...

[DocRock]

"So, you don't think someone has to pay to drop them supplies?"

No. Nobody has to supply these people. If the government could starve them out, (or thirst them out? Is that proper English?), then they would. They have to use force to remove these law abiding citizens from their property in violation of...

Amendments to the Constitution of the United States

II. A well regulated Militia, being necessary tot he security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

IV. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

V. No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb, nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.

XIV. Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

[familyop]

Just think of the exquisite suburb full of large, beautiful homes that southern Louisiana is about to become.

[...little sarcasm and irony there.]

Give us the former employees of New Orleans. Make their bosses stay there.