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I have a Question... Isn't the water exteremely toxic?
My Keyboard ^ | 9/8/2005 | Robert Eimiller

Posted on 09/08/2005 7:57:53 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller

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To: coon2000

Then pray tell what those storage vessels are doing in the inundated area? They are very visible on TV. Judging by their size they are not crude storage tanks but appear to be chemical storage tanks. They are located near the river levee and could therefore be a shipping or receiving facility.

I understand that the chemical industry is more upstream from NO and that the river levee remained intact. Then how did all these chemicals end up in the flood water? Don't tell me that the water from lake P. was that polluted. I think that the chemical content in the flood water originates from facilities installed inside the flooded area.

During the rise in water level, the tanks may have started to float and connecting lines to/from tanks were ruptured.


201 posted on 09/09/2005 9:36:46 AM PDT by auburntiger (Socialism is Tyranny disguised as Benevolence.)
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To: June Cleaver

I was thinking about that same thing yesterday, as a matter of fact. I am not sure when they plan to 'officially' begin counting the dead, but I find the lack of information somewhat odd.


202 posted on 09/09/2005 9:41:26 AM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (Incompetence... thy name is Louisiana State Government..)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Embalm the bodies?
Wow...

(Ick)
203 posted on 09/09/2005 9:43:22 AM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (Incompetence... thy name is Louisiana State Government..)
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To: spunkets
hmmmm chemical storage facilities under water (how many would you figure??)....a city full amount of small machine shops under water...raw sewage from 1/2 million residents, dead and rotting flesh from thousands of animals... gas stations... oil change facilities with pcp laden used oil... I doubt they took that with them when they fled the hurricane... fertilizers...pesticides for 1/2 million people... I guess I could go on and on...but what's the use...it's only rain water...right?

I'm not an inviro-wacko but that city is....

---->FINI !!<----

Keep the toxins contained inside the levees... why spread it around especially when the former Big Easy is G-O-N-E.

204 posted on 09/09/2005 5:00:18 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Who cares about the polluted water, I'm more interested in the absolute silence from the enviro-Nazis as 30,000 gallons per minute of that toxic soup pour into that lake with fury and fervor.

Funny...lol

205 posted on 09/09/2005 5:02:33 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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To: CobraJet
Just wait, though, for the Sierra Club, Greenpeace, etc. to start howling after it is done, blaming Bush for being unconcerned about the environment. Funny thing about these environmental groups, they never have a solution to a problem, just complaints.

Hmmmmm That sounds like a liberal...or a Democrat

206 posted on 09/09/2005 5:05:31 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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To: Bob Eimiller
"hmmmm chemical storage facilities under water (how many would you figure??)...

What matters is that chem storage is always in closed containers. It takes time for processes such as corroison to violate the container.

The flood waters of NO are far from an open sewer and what they do contain is purely natural. Unless you think like city folk.

"oil change facilities with pcp laden used oil...

Oil change facilities are closed and whatever oil exists as a surface coat within the facilities, is far less than the oil slick that is washed into Lake Ponchartrain at each rainfall occurrance. As far as PCBs goes, there are none and those oil shops contain none. I doubt there's any left down there at all.

" fertilizers...pesticides for 1/2 million people...

washed away at each rainfall. ,p> "I guess I could go on and on...but what's the use...it's only rain water...right?"

Right now, yes. It's the equivalent of heavy rains after a long drought.

"Keep the toxins contained inside the levees... why spread it around especially when the former Big Easy is G-O-N-E."

It will rain. The rain will fill up the bowl and it will overflow. Then it will be a f'n mess. Also, NO is not gone.

207 posted on 09/09/2005 5:21:41 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets

The Big Easy has always been a f'n mess.... it's not worth the effort to rebuild...especially with my tax dollars.


208 posted on 09/09/2005 5:50:52 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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To: Bob Eimiller

Rebuilt, or not, the water can't stay in that bowl. The mess must be cleaned up and something done with the site the NO metro sits on. The sooner the water is pumped out into the Lake, the less damage will be caused all around.


209 posted on 09/09/2005 6:20:42 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets
What matters is that chem storage is always in closed containers. It takes time for processes such as corroison to violate the container.

After what the HURRICANE did to cars, trucks, boats, BRICK buildings, The Super Dome...etc I suggest chemical containers are not invulnerable

The flood waters of NO are far from an open sewer and what they do contain is purely natural. Unless you think like city folk.

Take that swim.

"oil change facilities with pcp laden used oil...

Oil change facilities are closed and whatever oil exists as a surface coat within the facilities, is far less than the oil slick that is washed into Lake Ponchartrain at each rainfall occurrance.

REALLY???

As far as PCBs goes, there are none and those oil shops contain none.

REALLY??

I doubt there's any left down there at all.

I'm Sorry, Spunkets..All used oil contains PCB's

210 posted on 09/09/2005 8:13:26 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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To: Bob Eimiller
"After what the HURRICANE did to cars, trucks, boats, BRICK buildings, The Super Dome...etc I suggest chemical containers are not invulnerable

I don't simply suggest, I'm sure you are not a scientist and have no hands on experience with these things at all.

Re:The flood waters of NO are far from an open sewer
"Take that swim."

I already have in worse than you suppose. You assume to much.

"REALLY???"

Yes.

"I'm Sorry, Spunkets..All used oil contains PCB's"

They do not. Your statement simply indicates that your know niether what a PCB is, or what they were used for. Here's a clue. They're polychlorinated biphenyls used in electrical apps as chemically stable, insulating dielectric oils with very high breakdown voltage. Their use was discontinued a long time ago.

211 posted on 09/09/2005 8:26:38 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets
I stand corrected on PCBs... I still consider New Orleans a mistake and rebuilding a city on the Mississippi Delta below sea level complete folly.

$59 Billion for what...

212 posted on 09/10/2005 4:21:30 AM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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To: dts32041

"Chicago the only city more corrupt than NOLA" Well Chicago is much bigger, and much of it's gov't runs better than NOLA's. So on a per capita basis NOLA is more corrupt, Chicago keeps it's title as 'The Second City.'


213 posted on 09/10/2005 6:58:06 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Bob Eimiller
The Lake; is actually more of a bay on the Gulf of Mexico. There are several passes and mostly wetlands and several other "Lakes"; between it and the Gulf. If you get winds from the west it will push the Gulf waters right up into the "lake". For one I just can't see how you can defend all the low-lands that have been developed dependably with levees. It looks like you would need at least one more layer of defense by putting a very high levee all across the east side of the Lake. http://mapserver.maptech.com/homepage/index.cfm?lat=30.15421&lon=-89.5957144&scale=250000&zoom=50&type=1&icon=0&searchscope=dom&CFID=1685345&CFTOKEN=18001136&scriptfile=http://mapserver.maptech.com/homepage/index.cfm&latlontype=DMS
214 posted on 09/10/2005 10:05:31 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida
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To: Enterprise
Ah! But the leftists do believe in sacrificing virgins. They just do it before the virgins are born.
215 posted on 09/10/2005 1:31:37 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Bob Eimiller

I'm not not trying to urk you.

Who told you the water was contaminated and to what standards?

I'm just trying to understand.


216 posted on 09/13/2005 10:54:38 PM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: kennyboy509
I'm not not trying to urk you.

Who told you the water was contaminated and to what standards?

I'm just trying to understand.

A medical doctor on Fox News ...(I believe it was Fox because I seldom watch any other news outlet) ... stated, to the effect, the water is of such toxicity that just incidental contact with the skin could cause conditions with very serious consequences.

I trust this will put this thread to bed.

217 posted on 09/14/2005 4:55:08 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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To: Bob Eimiller

Thank you.


218 posted on 09/14/2005 6:46:47 PM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: Bob Eimiller

You were wrong!!

You bit on what the media was telling you.

The water is not a toxic soup that will kill you.

I used to dive for the Navy in more toxic water than that.

All I needed was a gamma globulin shot.

NO BIG DEAL. I , trust you won't put it to bed but investigate before YADDA YADDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


219 posted on 10/18/2005 9:47:35 PM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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