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To: MNJohnnie

This goes to the heart of what I've been trying to get an answer to since the book came out.

If I gross $ 1,000 per week, I presently take home about $ 750. My employer is required to pay what was withheld from my check ( $ 250 ) PLUS additional taxes of almost $ 80 to the government. If FAIR tax gets enacted, will I be paid:
a. $ 1,000
b. $ 750
c. $ 1,080

I just want an answer to that one question.


31 posted on 09/08/2005 5:57:55 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: GadareneDemoniac
will I be paid: a. $ 1,000 b. $ 750 c. $ 1,080 I just want an answer to that one question.

The answer is

d. What you are willing to work for.

33 posted on 09/08/2005 6:11:00 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: GadareneDemoniac
If I gross $ 1,000 per week, I presently take home about $ 750. My employer is required to pay what was withheld from my check ( $ 250 ) PLUS additional taxes of almost $ 80 to the government. If FAIR tax gets enacted, will I be paid: a. $ 1,000 b. $ 750 c. $ 1,080 I just want an answer to that one question.

You'll have to ask your employer. The model Jorgensen used assumed (for simplicity, most likely) that the take-home pay would remain constant, and the former taxes would be kept by the employer. Again, this was for modelling simplicity -- it does not require that this happen in reality.

It is very unlikely to happen, actually, as it would require mass violations of existing employment contracts/agreements. If my gross salary is contracted at $50,000 (before taxes), then my employer would be violating our contract if he only gave me the $38,000 or so I'm currently getting as "take-home" pay.

36 posted on 09/08/2005 6:14:02 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Political looters" should be shot on sight)
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To: GadareneDemoniac
I just want an answer to that one question.

You would get to take home $1000, but prices would go up 20% or more. The point being, when the fair taxers did their economic modeling, they ASSUMED you would take a pay cut to $750. Therefore, their claims are misleading.

40 posted on 09/08/2005 6:20:16 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: GadareneDemoniac
If you have an employment contract, the answer will be a. $1,000. A change in the tax law does not affect your employer's obligation to cough up the full amount your agreed-upon pay.

However, this means that before-tax prices will generally not fall enough to offset the FairTax. They will fall a bit (as producers are relieved of administrative overhead costs, and forced by competition to pass the savings along), but not by anywhere near 20%.

51 posted on 09/08/2005 6:58:10 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: GadareneDemoniac
My employer is required to pay what was withheld from my check ( $ 250 ) PLUS additional taxes of almost $ 80 to the government.

I am sure you have more education than I do.
But, you would get the $1000.

The employer does't pay that. He takes it from your check and sends it to the IRS.

89 posted on 09/08/2005 2:23:11 PM PDT by carenot (Proud member of The Flying Skillet Brigade)
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To: GadareneDemoniac
If I gross $ 1,000 per week, I presently take home about $ 750. My employer is required to pay what was withheld from my check ( $ 250 ) PLUS additional taxes of almost $ 80 to the government.If FAIR tax gets enacted, will I be paid:
a. $ 1,000
b. $ 750
c. $ 1,080

I just want an answer to that one question.

You would probably get $1000 but that doesn't change the government needing the $250 withheld from your check plus the $80.00 from your employer who won't be paying it anymore...Any guesses who will?

The 23% teaser rate is only for the first year. Do the math. You would be taking home $1000 but the government still needs the $330.00 previously paid (and then some)...that won't change, even the Fairtax brags that it's revenue neutral.

If you're single you'd get $69 a week rebate. The only way for the government to get that $330.00 from your $1,069 spending is with a 44.6% (not 23%, not 29.87% or even 33%) sales tax not including the cost of the rebate...("revenue neutral" AND a "rebate"...the "rebate" isn't a tax cut, it has to come from somewhere).

That's why I say your takehome pay should be $1080 + $69 ...Then the sales tax rate would (only?) have to be 40% (not including the cost of the rebate).

99 posted on 09/09/2005 12:58:10 AM PDT by lewislynn (Status quo today is the result of eliminating the previous status quo. Be careful what you wish for)
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To: GadareneDemoniac

You will be paid $1000.


190 posted on 09/11/2005 7:39:13 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: GadareneDemoniac

If I gross $ 1,000 per week, I presently take home about $ 750. My employer is required to pay what was withheld from my check ( $ 250 ) PLUS additional taxes of almost $ 80 to the government. If FAIR tax gets enacted, will I be paid:
a. $ 1,000
b. $ 750
c. $ 1,080

I just want an answer to that one question.

Money whould have you believe that the $250 now being withheld will simply evaporate.

240 posted on 09/28/2005 2:16:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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