Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

What the Black Man Wants
Teaching American History.org ^ | 1865 | Frederick Douglass

Posted on 09/07/2005 7:46:48 AM PDT by Sam Cree

"...The American people have always been anxious to know what they shall do with us. Gen. Banks was distressed with solicitude as to what he should do with the Negro. Everybody has asked the question, and they learned to ask it early of the abolitionists, "What shall we do with the Negro?" I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are wormeaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall! I am not for tying or fastening them on the tree in any way, except by nature’s plan, and if they will not stay there, let them fall. And if the Negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone! If you see him on his way to school, let him alone, don’t disturb him! If you see him going to the dinner table at a hotel, let him go! If you see him going to the ballot- box, let him alone, don’t disturb him! [Applause.] If you see him going into a work-shop, just let him alone,--your interference is doing him a positive injury. Gen. Banks’ "preparation" is of a piece with this attempt to prop up the Negro. Let him fall if he cannot stand alone! If the Negro cannot live by the line of eternal justice, so beautifully pictured to you in the illustration used by Mr. Phillips, the fault will not be yours, it will be his who made the Negro, and established that line for his government. [Applause.] Let him live or die by that. If you will only untie his hands, and give him a chance, I think he will live..."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: blackmales; douglass
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-54 next last
To: Sam Cree

Douglass was a true American hero. Up there with the Founders IMO.


21 posted on 09/07/2005 9:12:30 AM PDT by Lorianne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sam Cree
Douglass escaped from slavery, educated himself

Education is the key, the era of manual labor jobs is past, without education no-one, Black, Brown, White, Green, Purple has an equal opportunity to succeed.

Education in the United States schools does little to historically solve the problem. Slavery taught in American schools insinuates the United States was totally responsible for the removal and transportation of slaves from Africa to the New World.12 million is the accepted number of slaves coming to the Americas. 5% of this total eventually found their way to what is now the United States, 95% landing in the Caribbean and South America. The United States after the Declaration Independence was basically abolitionist and in 1806 made it illegal to import slaves.

Lack of education is evident with the adoption of Muslim names and an affinity to the Muslim Religion, when the Muslims were among the first slave traders, walking Africans East to the Muslim countries. Slavery exists to this day in the Muslim countries.

United States schools teaching true history and not history to achieve a political agenda would go a long way in solving the race relations problems in our country.

Douglas is correct in every respect.

22 posted on 09/07/2005 9:14:46 AM PDT by BIGZ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sam Cree
His words make so much sense yet millions of blacks never hear them.They are stuck with the incoherent rambling stupidity of Jessie Jackass instead.His tired old blame whitey rhetoric has become a joke to most white people and more and more black people see it that way as well.Just hand Je$$ie a bundle of money and he'll mumble whatever you want him to.
23 posted on 09/07/2005 9:34:22 AM PDT by rdcorso (Bill Clinton Stuck His Cigar In Foreign Places And Called It Foreign Policy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rdcorso

In delivering 'his people' the Welfare largesse, or at least the rhetoric thereof, Jesse Jackson and his like are analogues of the Judas goats employed in abbatoirs to lead the doomed cattle to the killing floor.


24 posted on 09/07/2005 9:41:01 AM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Paul_B

"Wonderful attitude. This needs to be circulated. Great find. "

I'm pretty sure this is the Frederick Douglas quote that Clarence Thomas cited in dissent from Gutter v. Bollinger which ruled that affirmative action could be used to get a "critical mass" of blacks in a college.

Unfortunately the best source I could find is a personal web page so it's not confirmed.

http://members.aol.com/dignews/fdonct.htm


25 posted on 09/07/2005 9:42:26 AM PDT by gondramB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: mikegi

Did you even read the post?


26 posted on 09/07/2005 9:44:04 AM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: fieldmarshaldj

He cuts a very dignified, august figure, does he not?


27 posted on 09/07/2005 9:52:36 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: BIGZ
In my part of the world manual labor is booming with pay in construction industry at all time high and headed higher.

We pay $18 hr. for a home health aid for my Dad. She changes the sheets, does laundry and cleans his bathroom and plays cards with him for a few hours a day.

28 posted on 09/07/2005 10:15:42 AM PDT by concrete is my business (prepare the sub grade, then select the mix design)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: gondramB

Absolutely correct, my friend.

p.


Grutter v. Bollinger

http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/23jun20030800/www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/02pdf/02-241.pdf



Cite as: 539 U. S. ____ (2003) 1
Opinion of THOMAS, J.
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
_________________
No. 02–241
_________________
BARBARA GRUTTER, PETITIONER v. LEE BOLLINGER ET AL.
ON WRIT OF CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SIXTH CIRCUIT
[June 23, 2003]
JUSTICE THOMAS, with whom JUSTICE SCALIA joins as to Parts I–VII, concurring in part and dissenting in part.
Frederick Douglass, speaking to a group of abolitionists almost 140 years ago, delivered a message lost on today’s majority:
“[I]n regard to the colored people, there is always more that is benevolent, I perceive, than just, mani-fested towards us. What I ask for the negro is not be-nevolence, not pity, not sympathy, but simply justice. The American people have always been anxious to know what they shall do with us. . . . I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are worm-eaten at the core, if they are early ripe and dis-posed to fall, let them fall! . . . And if the negro can-not stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone! . . . [Y]our interference is doing him posi-tive injury.” What the Black Man Wants: An Address Delivered in Boston, Massachusetts, on 26 January 1865, reprinted in 4 The Frederick Douglass Papers 59, 68 (J. Blassingame & J. McKivigan eds. 1991) (emphasis in original).


29 posted on 09/07/2005 10:59:55 AM PDT by Paul_B
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: July 4th

LOL! Butz came to my mind too! I'm so bad...I've not been indoctrinated properly...back to the camp for me!


30 posted on 09/07/2005 11:04:31 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Sam Cree
Frederick Douglass lived most of his public life in Rochester. As a major Stationmaster on the Underground Railroad he directly helped hundreds on their way to freedom through his adopted home city of Rochester, NY.


Frederick Douglass grave
Mount Hope Cemetery, Rochester, NY

31 posted on 09/07/2005 11:21:13 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (born and raised in rachacha!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gondramB

I'm a bit rusty on postwar northern history. How were blacks treated there?


32 posted on 09/07/2005 1:04:28 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Stop the looting! The IRS hates competition.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: concrete is my business
I don't understand your point? The labor in Southern Cal, concrete, is mostly illegal,where do we go from here.

I guess you don't have to have an education, you can pour and finish concrete for the rest of your life.

I am in the consruction business.

33 posted on 09/07/2005 2:03:39 PM PDT by BIGZ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: ovrtaxt

"I'm a bit rusty on postwar northern history. How were blacks treated there?"

On the surface it seemed much better in the North - they weren't lynching 100 blacks a year and it was easier to register to vote.

But underneath the KKK was active up north and there was serious involuntary segregation, both by neighborhood and in school. In 1901, George Henry White, the last slave to serve in congress and the only black in congress introduced a bill to outlaw lynching. It got only a few votes as most northern lawmakers opposed it too.

Disclaimer: this is not my specialty


34 posted on 09/07/2005 4:05:45 PM PDT by gondramB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: rochester_veteran

Thanks, I hadn't know he'd lived in Rochester. I have spent some time in Syracuse recently, I think well of upstate NY.


35 posted on 09/07/2005 6:08:33 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Sam Cree

Bling bling?


36 posted on 09/07/2005 6:09:51 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: July 4th
Let's be honest...most American males want those three things.
37 posted on 09/07/2005 6:11:53 PM PDT by RichInOC ("The coffee is strong at Cafe du Monde, the doughnuts are too hot to touch..." Save the Big Greasy!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: TheForceOfOne

Not in this particular case.


38 posted on 09/07/2005 6:35:17 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Sam Cree

/sarcasm


39 posted on 09/07/2005 6:39:11 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Sam Cree

Can you imagine what would happen if Justice Clarence Thomas, another self-motivated man, would give this exact speech? The race pimps and their enablers in the msm would be howling for his impeachment tomorrow.
After seeing the pictures out of NO, I'd answer the question thusly: 1)Sex without marriage. 2)Children without responsibility. I pray that the malignant curse of illegitimacy can be changed for some of these people as they escape the ghetto life and start over somewhere else.


40 posted on 09/07/2005 6:42:23 PM PDT by kittymyrib
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-54 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson