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Hurricane Katrina - why the government response was fine

Posted on 09/07/2005 7:00:26 AM PDT by mudblood

Everyone is howling for blood in the media over the events in New Orleans and that other state...what is it called? Oh yes, Mississippi. They think that SOMEONE is to blame for the slow response. If you think about it though, there really isn't much that could have been done, even if the response were lightning fast because of the events leading up to the disaster. My analysis:

1) Anyone who didn’t leave when they could have and died: feds/FEMA/Governor couldn’t have done anything to help them short of evacuation by force, and in that only the Governor had the right.

2) Anyone who lived through the hurricane was only inconvenienced by the time it took to rescue them. Being thirsty, hungry, hot, waiting on streets or rooftops for days – all inconveniences. But then that’s what city-stomping disasters do (when they don’t kill you). I actually heard one survivor complaining that they didn't have hot food in the Superdome...

3) All the FEMAs in the world couldn’t have saved a single house or piece of property.

4) Civil unrest: it was not an uprising, so the President had no legal power to usurp control. I don’t really believe all the stories about shootings and hold-ups – mainly because there was enough free stuff around that it wasn’t exactly necessary. As soon as someone points a gun at you on your roof and says “gimme the money”, the joke is revealed – if it isn’t in my pocket then its downstairs under 20 feet of water. Thus, the civil unrest was overblown. This is probably why the only news footage we saw was of the same guy running through the water with a handful of Nikes, or the same lady trying to smash through a store window, or the guy pushing a candy-bar stand.

5) The President: even on 9/11, the President didn't actually DO anything. Even the week or two following 9/11 he didn't do a tremendous amount. He was a leader mainly, he "called for money to be given" secondly. His main usefulness was in the coming months, where he ramped up for attack and began restructuring the way we defend ourselves from terrorism. Unless we are attacked by a country or a state breaks away from the Union, there's nothing the president can really do that local governments cannot, other than be a leader and "call for money to be given".

Ok, so that's my first "vanity" posting.

TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: bush; feds; government; hurricane; katrina; response

1 posted on 09/07/2005 7:00:28 AM PDT by mudblood
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To: mudblood
The blaming Bush game is just that - a game.
It's an automatic reaction when something goes wrong, without having to think.

If Bush walked on water, some folks would blame him for not swimming.

2 posted on 09/07/2005 7:03:26 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: mudblood

Good post. There seems to be a lack of common sense these days, but then I'm not involved in the loss directly.

3 posted on 09/07/2005 7:04:26 AM PDT by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: mudblood

You nailed it. If the president had "usurped" the Governer's power, it would have been impeachable...and don't believe that the Dems wouldn't have seized on that. Most idiots in this country think of the President as some kind of "SuperGoverner". Those idiots know nothing about the Constitution. And one more rant I have, this is a free country. That means people are free to make stupid decisions, and they are free to experience the consequences. If I am asked to evacuate, I can exercise my freedom to ignore it, but I also am free to die from that decision. There is one...and only one person responsible for the death. I understand that a lot of those people couldn't actually walk out of the city, but that is a different situation...normally, that is where family and friends come in.

4 posted on 09/07/2005 7:07:44 AM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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To: mudblood

Remember - there cannot be any positive stories about the response in Mississippi, because Barbour is a Republican and well, the MSM doesn't want to create another Rudy.

5 posted on 09/07/2005 7:14:30 AM PDT by GianniV
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To: mudblood

Folks - let's just face it - democrats/liberals are never going to be any help with anything - whether it's a major catastrophe, a war, an economic issue, whatever. They will be nowhere to be found, other than writing snippy little hate pieces in their plush Manhattan digs.

So, can we just start ignoring liberals, kind of like when you ignore your kids' whining after a while?

6 posted on 09/07/2005 7:17:21 AM PDT by GianniV
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To: mudblood
Is it surprising the socialist democrats would rather see a National Socialist form of government, giving all power to the Federal Government to be responsible for all areas of life, literally dissolving state and city governments?
7 posted on 09/07/2005 7:18:08 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: mudblood

I agree with much of what you have said.

There is always room for improvement, at all levels of government, in planning and response. Hindsight is 20-20. If we learn from this, then that's a silver lining to a very dark and ugly cloud.

You are right that NOTHING would have stopped those many, many buildings from being blown away. And many people could have left, but didn't.

What I find interesting is that we didn't hear of widespread government failure or massive lawlessness in Mississippi, which was the hardest hit. OK, New Orleans is a large city, and the flooding presented its own dangers. But grossly ineffective state and local governments and a culture of violence and criminality seem to have made the most difference.

Also, there ARE limits to what the federal government can legally do. Maybe we need to look at that. The Bush administration will bear some of the blame, like it or not, for appearing to defer too much to a governor who obviously is not qualified for even the lowest elective office. And the President's opponents and the media will pile on (and have done so already) as much as possilbe, overplaying their hand and having it boomerang on them as usual.

I think everybody got a bit "fooled" when New Orleans was spared the brunt of the storm on Monday. Remember all the "New Orleans dodged the bullet" headlines from Monday afternoon until about a day later, after the levee broke? It was about another 24 hours before the Superdome lawlessness and looting stories started to circulate.

I say investigate and let the chips fall where they may. No one should be afraid of a full, fair and impartial inquiry - if in fact such a thing is possible in today's atmosphere. I try to "test" my feelings on a matter by saying what if the shoe was on the other foot - what if a Democrat president and a Republican governor and mayor were in charge. Would I feel differently? Would the media?

This is a disaster of almost Biblical proportions. It's a shame anyone has to expend an ounce of energy on finger pointing when there are still untold corpses strewn about the countryside and thousands upon thousands whose lives have been shattered. But I guess we're on notice as to what we're facing. If Bush has somehow "federalized" the State of Louisiana, the law be damned, the left would be howling about thew "illegal" and "unilateral" action, comparing it to their view of Iraq and calling Bush a dictator. They would add in that he was being a hypocrite about "states' rights" into the mix. And then they would keep blaming him because unless he could have stopped the storm from hitting the US MANY PEOPLE WERE GOING TO DIE NO MATTER WHAT, sad to say.

Again, if there's incompetence on the federal level, let's weed it out. I just want the whole picture to come to light. And a sizeable portion of the media, if not the public, will never give Bush credit for anything. I like it best when he just does what he thinks is right and ignores the baseless criticism.

8 posted on 09/07/2005 7:22:02 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Lekker 1

Good points. I hit similar points on my post a few further down the page.

If i were a "moonbat" with crazy DU type conspiratorial thoughts I might start thinking that the Democrat Louisiana governor was deliberately dragging her feet in an effort to make Bush look bad. It's hard to believe anyone could be so grossly incompetent and still making a good faith effort to do her job. But unfortunately such utter lack of leadership is indeed possible.

Jimmy Carter proved that . . .

9 posted on 09/07/2005 7:27:57 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: mudblood
Totally in agreement. The frustration comes largely from TV pictures of people stranded on bridges for days with no relief. I too would like explanations for those screw ups--and there may be. I would imagine no power, no TV, and bad communications accounts for much.

Also consider there were scenes like that being played out all over an area the size the UK. That TV cameras caught it made it prolem # 1.

No water at the Superdome clearly falls in the lap of the Mayor, if anyone.

10 posted on 09/07/2005 8:03:28 AM PDT by chiller (DONE: Gore, taxes, terrorism,Kerry, Old Media. TO DO: Judges, Tort, IRS, Soc.Sec.,borders..)
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To: cvq3842

Very good points, especially the reminder on how the media proclaimed they "dodged the bullet". I wonder how many people died because of those statements? Unknowable, but chilling.

11 posted on 09/07/2005 8:14:48 AM PDT by mudblood
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To: Shery

Indirectly you and all Americans are whenever we pay our taxes.

I am getting to hate.....Katrina!

12 posted on 09/07/2005 8:16:51 AM PDT by stopem
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To: Izzy Dunne
"The blaming Bush game is just that - a game.
It's an automatic reaction when something goes wrong, without having to think."

This is no 'blame game'. It is a concerted effort by dems and plotted back in 2001 to attack him at any...ANY opportunity.

Attack early!
Attack often!
Attack with venom!
Use any lie you can!
Repeat the lies until long after they are shown to be lies!
Begin attacking with new lies!
Accuse, accuse, accuse!
Use race at any and every opportunity!

This is a systematic and coordinated effort and is done in complete acceptance by the MSM who is greeted with the newest and latest set of lies and talking points as often as needed.
13 posted on 09/07/2005 8:23:55 AM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: mudblood

It is. But the media needs to grind out stories 24/7.

Maybe the FEMA director should have asked Russert what Russert asked him - do you think you should resign? (I'm being flippant, I know, but you get the point.)

14 posted on 09/07/2005 8:25:15 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: cvq3842; mudblood
Is anyone else thankful we have an awkward federal bureaucracy?

Can you imagine what an evil man, backed by a ruthlessly efficient bureaucracy, can do to our freedoms?
15 posted on 09/07/2005 8:41:47 AM PDT by AdSimp
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To: AdSimp

Interesting point!

16 posted on 09/07/2005 8:52:04 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: lawdude

I wish they used all that energy to get people out of NO!

17 posted on 09/07/2005 9:12:51 AM PDT by Milligan (Damn the torpedos! Full speed ahead!)
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To: mudblood
Fellow Freepers:

At the suggestion of writer Michelle Malkin last Friday, I have cobbled together a blogsite called Texas Clearinghouse for Katrina Aid to serve as a clearinghouse for refugee efforts in Texas.

Texas is getting more refugees than any other state -- that's fine, we'll take them all -- but we need help providing them with food, clothing, and shelter.

If you are a refugee, you can information that will help you find relief. If you want to donate or volunteer, you can find someone who needs you.

Right now the site mostly covers Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio but I will add various churches, schools, and other charities in Ft. Worth and Lubbock tonight. My wife spent yesterday at Reunion Arena in Dallas handing out care packages and otherwise ministering to the refugees as a representative of her employer.

There are a lot of churches and other organizations in Texas that need help in dealing with the problem and I would greatly appreciate it if you would get the word out.

Many thanks,

Michael McCullough

Stingray blogsite

18 posted on 09/07/2005 11:46:50 AM PDT by DallasMike
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