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FEMA Chief Waited Until After Storm Hit
NewsMax ^ | September 7, 2005 | NewsMax Wires

Posted on 09/06/2005 5:56:44 PM PDT by bobsunshine

WASHINGTON - The government's disaster chief waited until hours after Hurricane Katrina had already struck the Gulf Coast before asking his boss to dispatch 1,000 Homeland Security employees to the region - and gave them two days to arrive, according to internal documents.

Michael Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, sought the approval from Homeland Security Secretary Mike Chertoff roughly five hours after Katrina made landfall on Aug. 29. Brown said that among duties of these employees was to "convey a positive image" about the government's response for victims.

Before then, FEMA had positioned smaller rescue and communications teams across the Gulf Coast. But officials acknowledged Tuesday the first department-wide appeal for help came only as the storm raged. Brown's memo to Chertoff described Katrina as "this near catastrophic event" but otherwise lacked any urgent language. The memo politely ended, "Thank you for your consideration in helping us to meet our responsibilities."

The initial responses of the government and Brown came under escalating criticism as the breadth of destruction and death grew. President Bush and Congress on Tuesday pledged separate investigations into the federal response to Katrina. "Governments at all levels failed," said Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine.

Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said Brown had positioned front-line rescue teams and Coast Guard helicopters before the storm. Brown's memo on Aug. 29 aimed to assemble the necessary federal work force to support the rescues, establish communications and coordinate with victims and community groups, Knocke said.

Instead of rescuing people or recovering bodies, these employees would focus on helping victims find the help they needed, he said.

'Time for Blame'

"There will be plenty of time to assess what worked and what didn't work," Knocke said. "Clearly there will be time for blame to be assigned and to learn from some of the successful efforts."

Brown's memo told employees that among their duties, they would be expected to "convey a positive image of disaster operations to government officials, community organizations and the general public."

"FEMA response and recovery operations are a top priority of the department and as we know, one of yours," Brown wrote Chertoff. He proposed sending 1,000 Homeland Security Department employees within 48 hours and 2,000 within seven days.

Knocke said the 48-hour period suggested for the Homeland employees was to ensure they had adequate training. "They were training to help the life-savers," Knocke said.

Employees required a supervisor's approval and at least 24 hours of disaster training in Maryland, Florida or Georgia. "You must be physically able to work in a disaster area without refrigeration for medications and have the ability to work in the outdoors all day," Brown wrote.

The same day Brown wrote Chertoff, Brown also urged local fire and rescue departments outside Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi not to send trucks or emergency workers into disaster areas without an explicit request for help from state or local governments. Brown said it was vital to coordinate fire and rescue efforts.

Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., said Tuesday that Brown should step down.

After a senators-only briefing by Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and other Cabinet members, Sen. Charles E. Schumer said lawmakers weren't getting their questions answered.

"What people up there want to know, Democrats and Republicans, is what is the challenge ahead, how are you handling that and what did you do wrong in the past," said Schumer, D-N.Y.

Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, said the administration is "getting a bad rap" for the emergency response.

"This is the largest disaster in the history of the United States, over an area twice the size of Europe," Stevens said. "People have to understand this is a big, big problem."

Meanwhile, the airline industry said the government's request for help evacuating storm victims didn't come until late Thursday afternoon. The president of the Air Transport Association, James May, said the Homeland Security Department called then to ask if the group could participate in an airlift for refugees.


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KEYWORDS: brown; fema; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; michaelbrown; relief
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To: JaneAustin

Well I guess that I deserve all the stones that you have thrown because you obviously are without sin. My ex-mother in law was like that too. I would love to introduce you two someday.

"As far as breaking the law to "feed people after 5 days without it", that has already been shown that that is not what happened, so why bring it up?"

Really, can you please show me and also cx: the folks that will be arguing the following




Why Were Federal Relief Supplies So Late to Arrive?

Timeliness is critical to disaster response. Food, water, and medical supplies are immediate needs for the survivors, particularly children, the elderly, and people with medical problems. In addition, living conditions in temporary shelters can deteriorate rapidly after a disaster, increasing both stress and the risk of infectious disease. On September 23, 2003, FEMA Director Michael Brown testified before Congress that the agency was "taking steps to reduce disaster response times so that eventually disaster teams will be able to respond anywhere in the country within 12 hours and disaster logistics packages, commodities, and equipment can be delivered anywhere in the country within 24 hours of a disaster declaration."

Yet relief supplies came painfully slowly to New Orleans. At least four days without food or clean water took a rapidly mounting toll on people's health and created an increasing sense of desperation. Thousands of people trapped in the New Orleans Convention Center lacked basic necessities.

Despite an array of promises, little was delivered quickly. John Copenhaver, a former southeastern regional director of FEMA, stated on Wednesday, "I would have difficulty explaining why there has not been a visible presence of ice, water, tarps — the kind of stuff that typically get delivered to hurricane areas." When told that FEMA had blamed road conditions for delays, Joe Myers, former emergency management chief of Florida, responded, "I would think that yesterday they could have flown that in … Everyone was flying in .… Put it this way, FOX and CNN are there. If they can get there, why can't FEMA.


741 posted on 09/07/2005 1:52:28 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: snuffy smiff

Re: The Gallup / CNN poll

These wierdos on FR that are going after FEMA and Brown are sharing the bed with Howeird Dean, Cindy Sheehan, Jessie Jackson, Hillary Clinton and a whole bunch of media whores.

If they make a movie, Sean Penn I'm sure would provide the financial backing.


742 posted on 09/07/2005 1:55:19 PM PDT by listenhillary
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To: JaneAustin

"Did you ever drive over 55mph? Much to the dismay of my husband, no I do not drive over the speed limit and encourage him not to (but he doesn't always listen to me)"

How can you possibly enter the holy vows of matrimony with someone who recklessly breaks the law. Do you know how many people are killed everyday by husbands that don't listen to their wives and knowingly break the speed laws? :->


743 posted on 09/07/2005 1:55:22 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot
Never said I was without sin, didn't know I was throwing stones. However, I was asking questions based on your replies. If you want to continue to believe everything you read, that is your right. Apparently, the pictures painted by the MSM are more important to you than facts. From the article below: "difficulty explaining why there has not been a visible presence of ice, water, tarps"
744 posted on 09/07/2005 2:00:11 PM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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To: JaneAustin

"As far as breaking the law to "feed people after 5 days without it", that has already been shown that that is not what happened, so why bring it up?"

What part of "without food and water" don't you understand?




"Yet relief supplies came painfully slowly to New Orleans. At least four days without food or clean water took a rapidly mounting toll on people's health and created an increasing sense of desperation. Thousands of people trapped in the New Orleans Convention Center lacked basic necessities."


745 posted on 09/07/2005 2:06:43 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Irish Eyes

yeah, i don't get it. if the aid had been dispensed before the storm, they would have been caught up in it too. certainly though, there could have been cots, ice, water and food with generators in the SuperDome. Nice ob Mayor.


746 posted on 09/07/2005 2:08:46 PM PDT by jw777
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To: spanalot

One last time, there was food and water at the SuperDome (see post 182) . People were not at the Convention Center for 5 days (see post 532). The Convention Center was not a "Last Resort Refuge" (see post 491). Believe the article you cite if you like, but don't demand everyone else to do the same. (Hint, don't believe everything you read or heard. Trust, but verify).


747 posted on 09/07/2005 2:36:04 PM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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To: JaneAustin

. People were not at the Convention Center for 5 days (see post 532).




The Convention Center was LOADED with overseas tourists that were kicked out of their hotels on Monday and sent to the Convention Center.


748 posted on 09/07/2005 3:00:10 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Coop
Hey he was the one that lost his horse show job and he was the one that was the last to know about the situation in NO even though it was known to general public for at least two days prior
749 posted on 09/07/2005 3:15:57 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: spanalot
At the Sheraton New Orleans Hotel, which housed 1,000 guests during the storm, all guests who hadn’t been able to get out on their own were evacuated to the Sheraton Park Central hotel in Dallas, according to a telephone recording at the New Orleans property. Hotel officials were unable to be reached at the hotel in Dallas.
The Hilton New Orleans Riverside, the city’s largest hotel, also was successful in getting people out on Wednesday.
“Yesterday evening we did a planned evacuation of 1,600 team members and guests from our four downtown New Orleans properties,” said Kendra Walker, vice president of brand communications at Hilton Hotels Corp.
Everyone was taken to Baton Rouge, where they could hop on a plane or be picked up by friends or family. Anyone who wasn’t able to do that was transferred to Hilton hotels in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Austin, Texas.
Hilton has set up a telephone number for friends and family to figure out to which Texas hotel guests were transferred. The 1,700-room Hilton Riverside was known to shelter as many as 5,000 guests during hurricanes, but Walker said that many guests were able to get out on their own before the situation in New Orleans became desperate.
Walker said that Hilton Hotels has donated $250,000 to the Red Cross, and the Conrad Hilton Foundation has donated $1 million to the Red Cross.
We are just going to have to agree to disagree.
750 posted on 09/07/2005 3:28:05 PM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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To: JaneAustin

"We are just going to have to agree to disagree"

Yes, My wife is starting to suspect something :-)


751 posted on 09/07/2005 3:33:19 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: SandyInSeattle
There's also this tidbit which might explain why FEMA was kept out, but not why Brown was unaware of this when questioned. Blanco 's scheme
752 posted on 09/07/2005 5:04:35 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: VictoryGal
VictoryGal, I'll submit you probably don't have much of a clue about the inner workings of government agencies, or the whys and wherefores. Just one observation though, wouldn't it be a good idea to have people on the ground that could multitask(for lack of a better term)? How many desk jockeys could respond to fires or various other emergencies better than firemen? eh?

FGS

753 posted on 09/07/2005 5:56:38 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: OkieDokie1000

True but I'm sure he can provide assistance to horses... oh, wait a minute, he got fired from that job. I agree with a lot of posters, fire the guy, the look on his face while pn CNN when he said he just found out there were people at the convention center said it all.


754 posted on 09/07/2005 6:08:41 PM PDT by JNL
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To: spunkets

Well - actually there is not a spec of difference between bureacrat bungling on this one:
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Homeland Security won't let Red Cross deliver food
Saturday, September 03, 2005

By Ann Rodgers, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



As the National Guard delivered food to the New Orleans convention center yesterday, American Red Cross officials said that federal emergency management authorities would not allow them to do the same.

Other relief agencies say the area is so damaged and dangerous that they doubted they could conduct mass feeding there now.

"The Homeland Security Department has requested and continues to request that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans," said Renita Hosler, spokeswoman for the Red Cross.

"Right now access is controlled by the National Guard and local authorities. We have been at the table every single day [asking for access]. We cannot get into New Orleans against their orders."

Calls to the Department of Homeland Security and its subagency, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, were not returned yesterday.

Though frustrated, Hosler understood the reasons. The goal is to move people out of an uninhabitable city, and relief operations might keep them there. Security is so bad that she fears feeding stations might get ransacked.

"It's not about fault and blame right now. The situation is like an hourglass, and we are in the smallest part right now. Everything is trying to get through it," she said. "They're trying to help people get out."

Obstacles in downtown New Orleans have stymied rescuers who got there. The Salvation Army has two of its officers trapped with more than 200 people -- three requiring dialysis -- in its own downtown building. They were alerted by a 30-second plea for food and water before the phone went dead.

On Wednesday, The Salvation Army rented three boats for a rescue operation. They knew the situation was desperate, and that their own people were inside, said Maj. Donna Hood, associate director of development for the Army.

"The boats couldn't get through," she said. Although she doesn't know the details, she believes huge debris and electrical wires made passage impossible.

"We have 51 emergency canteens on the ground in the other affected areas. But where the need is greatest, in downtown New Orleans, there just is no access. That is the problem every relief group is facing," she said.

"America is obviously going to have to rethink disaster relief," said Jim Burton, director of volunteer mobilization for the North American Mission Board of the Southern Baptist Convention.

The Southern Baptists, who work under the Red Cross logo, are one of the largest, best-equipped providers of volunteer disaster relief in the United States. Most hot meals for disaster victims are cooked by Southern Baptist mobile kitchen units. Burton is a veteran of many hurricanes.

"Right now everybody is looking at FEMA and pointing fingers. Frankly, I have to tell you, I'm sympathetic. When in your lifetime have we experienced this? Even though we all do disaster scenario planning, we have to accept the reality that this is an extraordinary event. This is America's tsunami, that struck and ravaged America's most disaster-vulnerable city," he said.

Because New Orleans remains under water, it is different from other cities where Katrina struck harder, but where relief efforts are proceeding normally. Agencies place workers and supplies outside disaster areas before storms, to move in quickly. But there are always delays, Burton said, because nothing is deployed until experts survey the damage and decide where to most effectively put relief services.

The Southern Baptists operate more than 30 mobile kitchens that can each produce 5,000 to 25,000 meals daily, as well as mobile showers and communications trucks equipped with ham radios and cell phones. They are supporting refugee centers in Texas and Tennessee, and doing relief in Mississippi and Alabama. They have placed mobile kitchens around New Orleans to feed people as they come out.

Initially they tried to drive a tractor-trailer kitchen into New Orleans from Tennessee. It was stopped by the Mississippi Highway Patrol because the causeway it would have to cross had been destroyed, Burton said.

His agency has planned for missing bridges. The Southern Baptists' worst-case planning is for reaching Memphis after an earthquake on the New Madrid fault, which in 1812 whiplashed at a stone-crushing 8.1 on the Richter scale. Burton envisions the Mississippi without bridges.

So when state and local Southern Baptists raise money to build a mobile kitchen, he tells them to design it to be hoisted in by helicopter.

After Katrina, he thought he would have to airlift a feeding unit to one isolated town, but a road was cleared, he said. He doubts that dropping a kitchen into the New Orleans' poisoned waters, filled with raw sewage, dead bodies and possible industrial contaminants, would do any good. It made sense to prepare meals outside the area and truck them in or bring people out.

"The most important thing is to get the people out of that environment," he said.

He expects unusual problems to continue, because victims of Katrina flooding will need emergency food for far longer than the usual week or so. He's planning on at least two months.

Like the military, relief work requires a supply chain. Because business management favors just-in-time inventory, rather than stockpiling goods in warehouses, there isn't a huge stock of food to draw on, he said.

"When you go into a local area, it doesn't take long to wipe out the local food inventories," he said.

The Red Cross serves pre-packaged food, including self-heating "HeaterMeals" and snacks, that require no preparation. Yesterday the Red Cross was running evacuation shelters in 16 states, and on Thursday, the last day for which totals were available, served 170,000 meals and snacks in 24 hours.

While emergency shelters typically empty out days after a hurricane or other natural disaster, in Katrina's case they are becoming more crowded, Hosler said. People who had evacuated to the homes of relatives or hotels are moving in because they're out of money or want to be closer to what is left of their homes.


755 posted on 09/07/2005 6:12:07 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Eagle Eye
"So sarcsm and opinion are your only debating skills? REAL Freepers prefer to back their opinions with facts. Please, go back to your chatrooms."

It would appear your hero Brown shall remain and I shall not second guess the President's decision. Now that Brown's actions are being closely monitored by the President FEMA should function far better in the future.

756 posted on 09/07/2005 6:30:00 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Coop
"Dean Vernon Wormer: "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son."

More barbs?

Well on this count I could not agree more, so clean up your act, time to diet, stop being a stew bum and get with the program already - son.

757 posted on 09/07/2005 6:35:24 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: spanalot

Thanks, I saw that. The locals do run the show, so they may have prevented an effective FEMA response. That doesn't explain why Brown seems clueless over the matter.


758 posted on 09/07/2005 6:39:31 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets

I just posted the article and got flamed - also it was pulled as it exists prior- but here is an interesting post.



Misinformation

Part of the New Homeland Security contract (federal govt) with the states keeps Red Cross out of disaster areas. They are only allowed in after the area is no longer a disaster as their presence could keep people from evacuating. That's the national policy. That might look good on paper but since the evacuation locations were still inside NOLA (convention center, superdome, highways) Red Cross was not allowed to help these people. Red Cross was also not allowed to help
inside the hospitals. This policy works with all relief efforts (Salvation Army, ect). You can call the Red Cross and confirm: Red Cross National Affairs number (202-303-5551).



http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05246/565143.stm



135 posted on 09/07/2005 7:21:58 PM EDT by redder


759 posted on 09/07/2005 6:41:28 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Coop

check 759


760 posted on 09/07/2005 6:45:27 PM PDT by spanalot
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