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FEMA Chief Waited Until After Storm Hit
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| September 7, 2005
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Posted on 09/06/2005 5:56:44 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: VeniVidiVici
"I believe I've seen quotes from LA Guardsmen that have said they handed out water at the Convention Center.
Let alone mounds of trash that would indicate these folks were eating and drinking something."
Could be - and they were told to bring their own - but why did these folks have to be detained for 5 days to give every MSM camera a photo op for the Dem Convention in 2008?
There were open highways from day one - get them out beforwe the Penns and the Travoltas get there.
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posted on
09/06/2005 8:56:03 PM PDT
by
spanalot
(and they should not stop other first responders like the red cross.)
To: cahome
The Hurricane hit on Sunday - nobody had turkey dinner that night and that means sun, mon, tues, wedn, thurs/fri
Do you really want to toe dance with the dems on whether it was 4 or 5 days?
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posted on
09/06/2005 8:58:42 PM PDT
by
spanalot
(and they should not stop other first responders like the red cross.)
To: spanalot
I saw many reports of La. HS department and La. troopers turning back first responders. This is the first place I have seen any indication that FEMA turned away these responders.
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posted on
09/06/2005 9:00:32 PM PDT
by
Ingtar
(Understanding is a three-edged sword : your side, my side, and the truth in between ." -- Kosh)
To: churchillbuff
If Brown were a Clinton administration official, somehow I think all this a-s-covering for him by freepers wouldn't be happening.Bingo. But he was a Republican nominee so by default he can do no wrong. He apparently can't turn on a television either. Comforting to think that most of the American public knew about the dire straits in NO perhaps days before the director of FEMA isn't it?
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posted on
09/06/2005 9:00:36 PM PDT
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: Lunatic Fringe
I think Brown critics should look at the actual memo, not its characterization by the press. I see nothing untoward in the memo. (Text here in .pdf form)
http://wid.ap.org/documents/dhskatrina.pdf
To: spanalot
but why did these folks have to be detained for 5 days to give every MSM camera a photo op for the Dem Convention in 2008? Where was the Louisiana National Guard?
Blanco didn't call them out until Tuesday night, meaning they couldn't really be on the scene until Thursday, Friday.
The federal response was not what it should have been, but the MSM is slowly starting to investigate the total NON-RESPONSE of the city and state governments.
Contrast that with the great job the state of FLorida did in FOUR hurricanes last year, and the leadership of Jeb Bush.
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posted on
09/06/2005 9:01:21 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
(It is time for those of us who have much to share with those who have nothing.)
To: spanalot
Are you saying the people who were at the convention center (which by the way was not a designated shelter) were there for five days with no food? When did they start showing up there (I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday, but I'm sure you know the exact day). How many were there? When did NOLA officials inform FEMA they were there (and don't give me the "they should have been watching CNN and they would have known" bit)? By what method do you suggest FEMA deliver the food? I think the conditions in both the Superdome and the convention center were terrible, but to blame FEMA and exaggerate the situation is doing a disservice to all involved. What did you do to alleviate their suffering?
To: alrea
I guess the blamegame crowd believed the feds were suposed to roll up out of the sea like the Normandy Invasion right behind the Hurricane.
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posted on
09/06/2005 9:03:03 PM PDT
by
mercy
(never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
To: Ingtar
"I saw many reports of La. HS department and La. troopers turning back first responders. This is the first place I have seen any indication that FEMA turned away these responders."
Yeah - something ain't right here. Are they going to find that all the banks have been tunneled into or something?
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posted on
09/06/2005 9:04:43 PM PDT
by
spanalot
(and they should not stop other first responders like the red cross.)
To: VeniVidiVici
I would have driven a boat in there and got her out myself.
His bawling told me even he realized that he ought to have done the same thing.
To: sinkspur
"The federal response was not what it should have been, but the MSM is slowly starting to investigate the total NON-RESPONSE of the city and state governments."
No argument here but winning new La Repubs is not as important as keeping the ones we have in the rest of the country. Homel;and and FEMA screwed up and Bush needs to excise those responsible before the toll comes out.
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posted on
09/06/2005 9:06:37 PM PDT
by
spanalot
(and they should not stop other first responders like the red cross.)
To: spanalot
You're too focused on the politics of this thing.
Do the right thing now, worry about the politics later.
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posted on
09/06/2005 9:08:00 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
(It is time for those of us who have much to share with those who have nothing.)
Comment #233 Removed by Moderator
To: uttower; M. Espinola; Eagle Eye; Lunatic Fringe; spanalot; Peach
I think you're missing the point of this article. I don't think FEMA Director Brown waited until the day of the storm to ask for help from additional FEMA personnel. They were already stationed on the ground near the affected areas, and in any event, under his control. He wouldn't need to ask his boss, Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff, to direct them.
Instead, Director Brown asked for help from OTHER employees within the Department of Homeland Security, who would need (1) FEMA training and (2) permission from their managers before proceeding.
Nor did he tell other local police and fire departments not to come to Louisiana or Mississippi -- he told them not to come UNLESS asked by state and local officials.
There's been a lot of second guessing of the federal, state and local response to Hurricane Katrina. It's very easy to second guess tactics after the fact. Hindsight is 20/20. But it's much more difficult to work out logistics while things are still fluid. The area was hit by a hurricane before the flood. Before anyone can go in, roads and airports need to be cleared. Bridges need to be inspected. Fuel needs to be prepositioned. Trucks need to be moved into staging areas and loaded. Even helicopters can't fly until the winds die down.
You can't just snap your fingers and make this all happen. It takes time.
I'm sick and tired of the blame game. It's counterproductive. President Bush is right -- federal, state and local resources should be focused on rescue and recovery effort, not finger pointing. Now isn't the time for it.
It's Katrina's fault.
To: spanalot
"Keep up the good work - somebody is going to realize that the Repubs have got to win." Bravo to you as well.
I can not fathom how anyone can publicly defend the disgrace of the lack of uniformed response which resulted in American citizens (not refugees) dying.
Private citizens, doctors, nurses, clergy, coupled with charity groups of all types took more self-initiative immediately after Katrina winds headed away from the coastline, then government officials.
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posted on
09/06/2005 9:08:20 PM PDT
by
M. Espinola
(Freedom is never free)
To: JaneAustin
"What did you do to alleviate their suffering?"
I paid $80 k in taxes - where did it go?
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posted on
09/06/2005 9:08:22 PM PDT
by
spanalot
(and they should not stop other first responders like the red cross.)
Comment #237 Removed by Moderator
To: spanalot
"Far from deferring to state or local officials, FEMA asserted its authority and only made things worse, said Aaron Broussard, the president of Jefferson Parish, south of New Orleans. Broussard is a lying crybaby! In the end his efforts to protect his mayor, governor, or his own little feifdom will be his undoing.
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posted on
09/06/2005 9:11:29 PM PDT
by
ForGod'sSake
(ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
To: spanalot
Do you really want to say that FEMA should have feed them before they evacuated their homes? Stop worrying about the Dems, start worrying about the truth. But if all you can see in this the effect this is going to have on the 2008 elections, that is sad, but so be it.
To: Lunatic Fringe
Going live on CNN and admitting he did not even know until THURSDAY that there were people at the Convention Center? This claim is really ridiculous. The local authorities are responsible for notifying FEMA of what dangerous conditions need to be addressed. If the locals can't tell FEMA about local conditions, what are the Feds supposed to do?
You're doing exactly what the press and the Democrats are doing--taking yet another aspect of the absolute worthlessness of the local authorities, and blaming it on the administration.
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posted on
09/06/2005 9:12:43 PM PDT
by
denydenydeny
("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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