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Katrina Updates Thread
Self | 9/6/2005 | Abigail Adams

Posted on 09/06/2005 10:15:17 AM PDT by Abigail Adams

This thread is for Katrina news and updates.


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To: publana

Tri-Cities area equal Bristol, Johnson City, and Kingsport, TN


781 posted on 09/07/2005 6:10:56 PM PDT by publana
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To: publana

OK, I look the fool I am. The kids and my husband were all telling me what they heard and what other people were saying. I believed it, became furious, and posted here.

After doing some research as I should have done first, the Red Cross set up 3 shelters in the area expecting 450 people. As of tonight, we have only had 150 people agree to come.


782 posted on 09/07/2005 6:37:09 PM PDT by publana
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To: Txsleuth
I think it's time for the FBI to investigate her ASAP and get her trap shut once and for all.

Now, more than ever, I support what Tancredo wants to do. This is the MOST corrupt state in the Union -- well, one of the MOST corrupt... New Jersey and Illinois may give them a run for their money.

783 posted on 09/07/2005 6:55:13 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: publana; All; Jrabbit

I was listening to a local radio talk show on the way home today...and this person called up and said that they have a friend that is on the Dallas Police Dept. and has been posted at the Reunion Arena in Dallas, that is a shelter for the evacuees...

This officer told the guy on the phone that they had bus after bus of people dropped off, and that they found out hours AFTER a busload was dropped off, that a hundred of them were prisoners from the jail or prison...

But, they didn't call until after these crimnals were gone to who knows where...they could be at Reunion or out in the city, or ?????????????

How nice of LA to send us their criminals, but not tell us.


784 posted on 09/07/2005 6:58:53 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I definitely got the impression that she thinks she is going to get this accomplished...

HAH...about all I have heard that MAY happen, is to undo what she and her idiot congresscritters did to begin with...by putting FEMA as just part of that huge boondoogle Homeland Security Department...

THERE is no way (pray to God) that any Republican could possibly go along with giving those corrupt politicians billions of dollars of OUR money...

especially since they spent the money they got before on casinos, sports arenas and their own pockets!!!


785 posted on 09/07/2005 7:03:18 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: LA Woman3
You are welcome.

http://www.daily-report.com

ARRGHH! "synchronize key traffic lights" "fix all our ills"----they have had the money for this and should have synchronized the traffic lights years ago. Why should fed money be used to fix pre- Katrina problems that BR had the money to fix but instead spent it on other things?

FEMA preparing temporary housing; Fed money could fix lingering problems in B.R.

Federal officials are negotiating with undisclosed private owners in the region for land to build trailer parks for displaced hurricane victims. At a city-parish update this morning, Chief Administrative Officer Walter Monsour said a more detailed plan to relocate evacuees from shelters to mobile homes could be available later this week. Monsour said FEMA is in talks to buy or lease property from landowners in East Baton Rouge, West Baton Rouge and Ascension parishes. Federal officials will move evacuees from the homes to permanent housing as it becomes available. FEMA and the city-parish are looking at existing places that could be occupied by refugees. Those locations include the shuttered Bellmont Hotel in North Baton Rouge.
Mayor Kip Holden and Monsour said the city-parish is addressing the increased traffic in town. The city-parish now estimates the parish population has grown by 225,000 to 240,000 residents. The federal government has provided $1 million to synchronize key traffic lights and the city-parish has met with the state Department of Transportation to fast-track road construction projects. Parish officials will ask the federal government for money to quickly improve the roads, and use the funding to work around-the-clock on projects. Monsour said the request also will be for all the other infrastructure needs of the parish. "This is an opportunity for Baton Rouge to fix all of its ills."



Budget office: Katrina to whack hundreds of thousands of jobs

Hurricane Katrina could eliminate up to 400,000 U.S. jobs, estimates the Congressional Budget Office in a report released this morning. The CBO said the storm could reduce U.S. economic growth by 1% in the second half of 2005. CBO said its estimates are rough, but the "evidence to date suggests that overall economic effects will be significant but not overwhelming." The budget office said employment in September will be decline by 150,000 to 500,000 jobs. "Employment will increase in subsequent months, as workers return home and businesses reopen and as reconstruction activity gathers steam," the CBO said.
786 posted on 09/07/2005 7:09:13 PM PDT by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: Txsleuth

arghhhhhhhhh.....not good. Not good at all!


787 posted on 09/07/2005 7:14:01 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Txsleuth

Landreau...OMG!!!!! I can't believe she said that! Take that and put it next to the congressman's letter stating that LA gov shouldn't receive any money due to corruption. And, WOW!!!


788 posted on 09/07/2005 7:14:39 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: Abigail Adams

First she goes on national TV and threatens to punch the POTUS in the nose...and now this...

which we all know, that by even suggesting this kind of legislation at this time, is like legislative blackmail!!!

She knows that there are still people missing, still waiting to be rescued...and all of these idiot celebrities, like Oprah going around lying and dramatizing things..

so THEREFORE, Americans would (she thinks) be more inclined to go along with this scheme..

Add, to it this march on Washington tomorrow, by MOVEON.org, with "hurricane girls" most likely, and it makes a potent sob story.

Then, for seasoning, you add the racism that is being charged...


789 posted on 09/07/2005 7:20:36 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth; LA Woman3; All
Caption this
790 posted on 09/07/2005 7:31:30 PM PDT by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: Ellesu

Huey, Dewey, and Louie?

Curly, Moe, Larry?

Winken, Blinken, Nod?

Snap, Krackle, Pop?

Bonnie, Clyde, Jesse James?


791 posted on 09/07/2005 7:37:15 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

792 posted on 09/07/2005 8:07:20 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Cboldt

I want to apologize to everyone for my attitude. I saw a Doctor today for counsel. He seems to believe I am in the grieving process and got a little stuck in the anger phase. That feels right, so I'm thinking he knows what he's talking about. He says I haven't worked my way through the loss of a house on the coast, and alot of damage to friends, family, etc. It takes time and until I can work through some of this, I need to take time off.

A very dear friend has volunteered to be my volunteer and fill my role so noone gets let down. She has training and will do well. I'm not quiting, just taking a few steps back until I deal with my own issues. That way, everyone will get the best possible care.

Thank you for being here for me, putting up with me and giving me a chance to vent. It started a healing process for which I'll always be grateful to you all.


793 posted on 09/07/2005 8:48:30 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: LA Woman3; All

Nagin warned Sunday morning in issuing his evacuation order that seawater pushed by the storm's winds was expected to top the city's complex levee system, pouring water into the city's many low-lying areas -- something that hasn't happened since Betsy. Gov. Kathleen Blanco said models predicted water could be as deep as 20 feet in places, totally inundating some neighborhoods.

Yet they say they had no idea it would be this bad.



GROUND ZERO -
Superdome becomes last resort for thousands unable to leave
New Orleans braces for nightmare of the Big One
Times-Picayune, The (New Orleans, LA)
August 29, 2005
Author: Gordon Russell
Staff writer
Estimated printed pages: 5

As a ferocious Hurricane Katrina drew a bead on their precariously sited city and suburbs, metropolitan New Orleans residents prayed for salvation and scrambled to prepare their homes for a storm with the power to level the city and flood whole neighborhoods, struggling to get themselves, their loved ones and their neighbors to safety.

Some residents might have been predicting a close call, along the lines of last year's Hurricane Ivan, which threatened the city but then spared it serious damage. Katrina, by contrast, stubbornly hewed to the track predicted by hurricane forecasters Friday, one that aimed it straight at the Crescent City.

On Sunday at 4 p.m., National Hurricane Center Meteorologist Chris Lauer said Katrina was still on track to hit the New Orleans area as a devastating Category 5 hurricane as its eye comes ashore this morning. A computer model estimate of storm surge conducted by the Louisiana State University Hurricane Center Sunday afternoon indicates that even without waves, a Category 5 storm would flood most of eastern New Orleans, the 9th Ward, Mid-City, much of downtown and areas in St. Tammany close to Lake Pontchartrain. Kenner also will see severe flooding entering from St. Charles Parish. Areas outside the levee protection system are particularly vulnerable.

Given those factors, levees in the New Orleans area likely will be topped.

Direct hit

New Orleans has not been directly hit by a major hurricane since Hurricane Betsy, a Category 3 storm, in 1965. Although levees have been improved since then, Louisiana has lost hundreds of square miles of wetlands and barrier islands, making New Orleans, most of which lies below sea level, far more vulnerable to a devastating storm.

High-rise office and apartment buildings were likely to sway dangerously, "a few to the point of total collapse," the service said.

The National Weather Service also warned that "blown debris will create additional destruction. Persons, pets and livestock exposed to the winds will face certain death if struck."

It was impossible to get a clear sense of how many people decided to ride out the storm. City streets were eerily quiet in most areas as businesses shut down and residents cleared out. While neutral grounds around the city were full of parked cars by early afternoon, most streets were nearly devoid of traffic, though the occasional pedestrian or bicyclist could be seen.

In a somewhat surreal morning news conference, Mayor Ray Nagin issued an emergency order giving state and local authorities the right to commandeer private buildings and vehicles -- including boats -- as they see fit. The mayor did not say which buildings might be seized for public use, but said that if the Superdome became too full, additional buildings might be needed for shelter.

Nagin also said the city has 30 boats at its disposal, but could need far more, depending on the water level in the city after the storm.

After the storm

While officials were mostly concerned about preparing for the storm's impact, there already was discussion of its aftermath.

Dan Packer, CEO of Entergy New Orleans, said extra crews from other areas Entergy serves already are in the area, ready to begin repairs to what the company expects will be devastating storm damage.

The storm "may destroy the electrical distribution system in New Orleans and a good part of southeast Louisiana," he said. Packer said it may take weeks or months to rebuild the system.

Like Packer, the weather service warned of likely devastating power outages that could last for weeks, with power poles down and transformers destroyed. Most trees, the service predicted, would be snapped or uprooted; the heartiest, if they survive, would be stripped of all leaves.

The service also warned of devastation to buildings.

"At least one-half of well-constructed homes will have roof and wall failure," the service warned. "All gabled roofs will fail, leaving those homes severely damaged or destroyed."

As the city prepared to go into the bunker Sunday, airlines shut down their operations at Louis Armstrong International Airport and a Carnival cruise ship scheduled to end a one-week voyage in New Orleans was diverted to Galveston, Texas.

Officials in Orleans, St. Bernard, Plaquemines, St. Charles, St. John the Baptist and St. Tammany parishes called for mandatory evacuations of all or portions of these parishes.

Even Jefferson Parish, considered a more affluent and mobile community than New Orleans, opened three shelters of last resort Sunday afternoon at Bonnabel High School in Kenner, Stella Worley Middle School in Westwego and Truman Middle School in Marrero.

Jefferson also used public transportation to pick up residents and take them to the shelters.

"Let's hope and pray," said parish President Aaron Broussard at an afternoon news conference from the West Bank Emergency Operations Center.

Although the newly developed contraflow plan was executed much more smoothly than in last year's debut, motorists still complained of slow going.

A Dome divided

Meanwhile, tens of thousands of less fortunate Orleanians, many of whom lack access to cars, hustled to the Superdome, the "shelter of last resort" that was opened to the public by city officials Sunday at noon. Nagin, who imposed a 6 p.m. curfew, warned residents not to expect comfortable conditions inside the Dome, saying power outages could last for days.

The Dome was set up as a divided safe haven, with one side of the facility for the disabled and medically ill, where food and water and emergency personnel were plentiful, officials said. For the masses of residents, however, there was the other side, where all that was provided was a concrete stadium built for athletes and spectators.

While conditions in the Dome were far from ideal, many locals waiting in the long line that circled Poydras Street were not complaining that their city had no more to offer them.

"It's a safe haven," said Lee Andrews, 47, who accompanied his wife, Stephanie, and her sister and her sister's five children. "You can't expect to have everything."

Elsewhere around the city, for a few foolhardy souls -- the number was hard to gauge, but it appeared relatively small -- getting safe meant locking the doors and hoping that the vicious winds and high waters Katrina was expected to bring wouldn't prove fatal.

Among them was Dan Fuller, a74-year-old artist that lives in his studio in Mid-City. Sunday afternoon, Fuller was rolling a suitcase down Canal Street, returning from an unsuccessful stint of hitchhiking at the intersection of Interstate 10 and City Park Avenue.

"I thought I would hitchhike and just count on people's generosity, but I can't say if they were generous or not -- all their cars were full," he said.

Nagin warned Sunday morning in issuing his evacuation order that seawater pushed by the storm's winds was expected to top the city's complex levee system, pouring water into the city's many low-lying areas -- something that hasn't happened since Betsy. Gov. Kathleen Blanco said models predicted water could be as deep as 20 feet in places, totally inundating some neighborhoods.

Such a doomsday scenario could result in thousands of deaths, depending on factors ranging from the storm's intensity when it hits the city and the number of people who evacuated.

At Memorial Hospital, employees streamed into the facility with cats and dogs and pillow in tow, taking advantage of the stout Napoleon Avenue institution's long-standing practice of providing a hurricane refuge to its workers and their pets.

Even as the window for evacuation began to slam shut, some Orleanians were making the decision to get out.

As an RTA bus prepared to take another load of residents to the Dome, a family of nine pulled up in a faded blue Ford pickup, with Eddie Mason driving. The back was packed with children along with clothes, blankets and other essentials.

"I think we'll be there three or four days," Mason said. "But then again, I think we might be spared. I really do. I just keep thinking it can't be as bad as they been saying it's going to be."


794 posted on 09/07/2005 8:53:49 PM PDT by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: Letitring

You take care of yourself. Your anger is understandable in a situation like this. I am glad you are getting some help right now. My prayers.


795 posted on 09/07/2005 9:04:34 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Ellesu

Yes, and Greenspan quickly jumped in to say it would kill the housing market (that is if he doesn't do it first with raising interest rates)... he can't retire soon enough to suit me.


796 posted on 09/07/2005 9:12:18 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Txsleuth

Does there seem to be a common thread among every single person who represents the State of Louisiana? They all appear to be on something or brain dead.


797 posted on 09/07/2005 9:13:34 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: conservative cat

Thank you so much, that means alot to me. Thanks for your understanding, brings tears.

I've had a restful evening and am going to bed now.


798 posted on 09/07/2005 9:17:14 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: All

By the numbers look at Louisiana evacuees in Texas

06:56 PM CDT on Wednesday, September 7, 2005


Associated Press



By the numbers look at Louisiana evacuees in Texas:


EVACUEES

-- Governor Rick Perry's office says approximately 97,000 refugees are in Texas shelters operated by the Red Cross, plus civic and faith-based groups. Another 105,000 people are in hotels and other locations, for a total of about 202,000 refugees.

-- The estimated number of refugees staying in major Red Cross shelters in Houston, Dallas and San Antonio is at least 30,000:


HOUSTON

Astrodome: 2,930

Reliant Arena: 1,800

Reliant Center: 2,000

George R. Brown Convention Center: 1,366


DALLAS

Reunion Arena, 7,122

Convention Center, 9,825


SAN ANTONIO

Former Kelly Air Force Base and other shelters: 5,193


-- Perry has asked U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt for assurances that Texas will get 100% reimbursement for providing Medicaid and other services to refugees.

-- Texas public schools report have enrolled nearly 11,000 school-age refugees.

-- College students displaced by Hurricane Katrina are eligible for in-state tuition rates at Texas colleges and universities.

-- The Federal Emergency Management Agency has authorized cities and counties to pay for temporary housing assistance for refugees from 12 to 18 months.

-- The Texas Health and Human Services Commission has provided more than 60,000 Louisiana families with emergency food stamps over the past week.

-- The Texas Department of Criminal Justice is providing a number for displaced probation or parole offenders to check in, telling their location and to secure supervision.


799 posted on 09/07/2005 10:07:36 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (Largest relocation of African Americans in the US since the end of the Civil War)
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To: BurbankKarl

A Mississippi National Guardsman clears bags of chickens from the beach Tuesday in Gulfport, Miss. The bags came from shipping containers that broke apart during Hurricane Katrina; the containers and their contents litter the Gulfport area in the storm's wake.

800 posted on 09/07/2005 10:25:28 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (Got Bus?)
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