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Funeral director deploys to hurricane region (DMORT says "expect up to 40,000 bodies"
Shelbyville Time-Gazette ^ | 9/06/05 | Clint Confehr

Posted on 09/06/2005 9:06:25 AM PDT by Brian Mosely

A co-owner of Shelbyville-based Gowen-Smith Chapel has been deployed to Gulfport, Miss., to help with recovery since Hurricane Katrina, and his business partner here has described the grim task there.

"DMort is telling us to expect up to 40,000 bodies," Dan Buckner said, quoting officials with the Disaster Mortuary Operational Response Team, a volunteer arm of Homeland Security.

His partner, Dan Hicks, of Paducah, Ky., was deployed Monday. Buckner, of Dickson, is on standby. Their funeral home is one of several collection sites for donations to be taken to the Red Cross in Fayetteville on Wednesday for transfer to places in need.

The 40,000 estimate does "not include the number of disinterred remains that have been displaced from ... mausoleums," Buckner told the Times-Gazette Monday.

(Excerpt) Read more at t-g.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: deathtoll; gulfport; katrina
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1 posted on 09/06/2005 9:06:27 AM PDT by Brian Mosely
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To: Brian Mosely

This could be a long term mission projection and include the handling of nonstorm related deaths that occur over the months ahead before regular mortuary services are restored in the communities in the Gulf region.


2 posted on 09/06/2005 9:10:00 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Brian Mosely

I wish someone would explain to me what they are going to dow ith that many bodies? How are they going to identify a tenth of them?

Where are they going to bury that many bodies? The only option I can see is cremations.


3 posted on 09/06/2005 9:11:32 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Cindy Sheehan, American Traitor)
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To: Brian Mosely

They are simply taking a worst case position on this. AFter Andrew, thousands of bodybags were sent in, but only few were used.


4 posted on 09/06/2005 9:11:51 AM PDT by Paradox (Just because we are not perfect, does not mean we are not good.)
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To: silverleaf

If the area is evacuated, how are there going to be nonstorm related deaths?

Until the sewer system can be rebuilt, no one's going back to New Orleans. This may be an upper UPPER range estimate, but it's not promising.


5 posted on 09/06/2005 9:12:23 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Brian Mosely


I guess my prediction of 20,000 dead was low after all.


6 posted on 09/06/2005 9:12:23 AM PDT by msnimje (CNN - Constant Negative Nonsense)
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To: Armedanddangerous

If I could spell I'd be dangerous

dow ith should be do with...


7 posted on 09/06/2005 9:12:40 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Cindy Sheehan, American Traitor)
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8 posted on 09/06/2005 9:12:45 AM PDT by Paradox (Just because we are not perfect, does not mean we are not good.)
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To: Paradox

I hope you are right.


9 posted on 09/06/2005 9:12:50 AM PDT by Brian Mosely (A government is a body of people -- usually notably ungoverned)
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To: Armedanddangerous

Where do they come up with these numbers?


10 posted on 09/06/2005 9:13:03 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: msnimje

I still say 15K


11 posted on 09/06/2005 9:14:04 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Brian Mosely
"DMort is telling us to expect up to 40,000 bodies,"

A report day 1 said one city of 20k in MS (IIRC) completely disappeared. No one at that time knew whether anyone survived. [I haven't heard any follow-up.]

Tony Snow just said one predominately white neighborhood in N. O. is still under water; no one has been able to get in to it yet; expected to find many bodies there.

I notice the 'officials' seem to shy away from any real numbers. The most I've heard has been 'around 140 dead'. Common sense tells up that is only a drop in the bucket, when other reports talk of bodies floating in the water throughout the whole gulf area.

Day 1, one FReeper posted that an acquaintance in MS was saying they were removed dozens of bodies and just in that one area the number would likely be around 1,000.

The final number will be astounding.
12 posted on 09/06/2005 9:15:22 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Brian Mosely

What are they going to do, ship in bodies from around the US.


13 posted on 09/06/2005 9:15:38 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH ~ A NATIONAL TREASURE)
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To: TomGuy
Tony Snow just said one predominately white neighborhood in N. O. is still under water;

George Bush doesn't care about white people.

14 posted on 09/06/2005 9:17:13 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Brian Mosely
That was not unexpected in a Flood Surge Zone:

What Is "Storm Surge" and Why It Matters.

That is exactly why the Southern Louisiana Evacuation Plan specifically called for the COMPLETE evacuation of the New Orleans flood bowl PRIOR TO a Category 3 storm or higher and stated that people without private transportation were to be transported on public buses:

5. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating. .

15 posted on 09/06/2005 9:18:45 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Armedanddangerous
Where are they going to bury that many bodies? The only option I can see is cremations.

I read yesterday that the plan is to bury in a mass grave somewhere upstate, then do disinterments later should family members want to conduct an individual burial. Just how they're going to organize a mass grave so that bodies can be retrieved is something I can't get my head around. These bodies will never be able to be embalmed, so they will decompose rather rapidly.

Nobody has the nerve to make a declaration to erect large funeral pyres and burn all the bodies, as was done after 12,000 people were killed in the 1900 Galveston hurricane. But that is what ought to be done.

16 posted on 09/06/2005 9:18:48 AM PDT by sinkspur (It is time for those of us who have much to share with those who have nothing.)
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To: mlc9852

"where do they come up with these numbers?"

It certainly hasn't come to those numbers yet, but it certainly seems conceivable that there could be 1,000 + casualties.

You have to understant there are probably poor dead souls lodged under trees, under cars and stuck in flooded buildings that are yet to be found. In the flooding that hit my area in West Virginia in 2001, there are some people that were never found, even to this day.

I don't mean to be indelicate, but, someone who has been in the water for six weeks...well... not much chance they will be identified.


Also, another thing. Has anyone stopped to consider that there are probably a few dozen murders committed during the aftermath of the flooding that will never be solved? Not much way to figure out what killed a man who has been floating in a canal for weeks....or months.


17 posted on 09/06/2005 9:19:24 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Cindy Sheehan, American Traitor)
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To: Brian Mosely

Now, the area is going to be suffering from diseases related to the clean up.

More deaths may be related to this aspect, rather than direct result of the flood surge, because many of these people are still cut off from any aid.

On FoxNews this morning, someone said the area of devastation along the gulf is roughly the size of the state of Kansas. 90,000 square miles (IIRC).


18 posted on 09/06/2005 9:21:49 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: sinkspur

The poor people who have to conduct this... my original estimate was 15k, and I was shocked with that.


19 posted on 09/06/2005 9:23:03 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: txflake
The poor people who have to conduct this

They're accustomed to some gruesome stuff, especially DMORT. I worked in a funeral home in college, did some embalming. I even thought about volunteering for this duty, but I'm not a licensed embalmer or funeral director in Texas, so I doubt they'd take me.

I'd also be afraid that bacteria is simply going to be out of control, and some of this stuff is lethal.

I'd be looking to bring in some advisers from Sri Lanka or Bangladesh where mass deaths from flooding occur more often.

20 posted on 09/06/2005 9:32:17 AM PDT by sinkspur (It is time for those of us who have much to share with those who have nothing.)
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