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To: Just mythoughts; SeaLion
Public education is suffering and while creationists share the blame where they are wrong they are not totally responsible. I find no evolutionists willing to even entertain they have any responsibility in what is now public education.

Which "evolutionisits" share the blame for the current sorry state of American public eduction? Very few practicing evolutionary biologists I know of have anything to do with public education. Some write biology textbooks, maybe, but I haven't seen any evidence that biology textbook quality is particularly bad. It's the history, math, and English books that seem to be the worst.

The people primarily responsible for destroying are schools are the education bureaucrats, teachers' colleges, and teachers' unions. Why aren't you fighting them?

One of the reasons why education is suffering is because conservatives are wasting resources on this stupid fight about "intelligent design" nonsense instead of fighting to improve standards, abolishing teacher tenure, purging the social science and humanities curriculum from leftist and revisionist garbage, etc.

With all the leftist horrors in public education, the one thing that gets seems to get conservatives most worked up is evolution. If that is the best we conservatives can do, our country is doomed.

210 posted on 09/06/2005 5:28:06 PM PDT by curiosity (.)
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To: curiosity

"One of the reasons why education is suffering is because conservatives are wasting resources on this stupid fight about "intelligent design" nonsense instead of fighting to improve standards, abolishing teacher tenure, purging the social science and humanities curriculum from leftist and revisionist garbage, etc.

"With all the leftist horrors in public education, the one thing that gets seems to get conservatives most worked up is evolution."

A valid point. It's a losing fight from beginning to end.

Perhaps our enemies on the left wish us to engage in that fight instead of the important fight.


211 posted on 09/06/2005 5:35:30 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: curiosity
"Which "evolutionisits" share the blame for the current sorry state of American public eduction? Very few practicing evolutionary biologists I know of have anything to do with public education. Some write biology textbooks, maybe, but I haven't seen any evidence that biology textbook quality is particularly bad. It's the history, math, and English books that seem to be the worst."

What do you mean some write the textbook maybe? If they are not writing the textbook then who is? Evolution is not limited to just biology textbooks, every "science" book presented in public school has some portion of the TOE as foundation.

Exactly how does one practice evolutionary biology? Do they have a business name?

What evolution contains no math, no history, and void of English? The mindset of the evolutionists permeates every discipline and appears a blindness afflicts that mindset."

"The people primarily responsible for destroying are schools are the education bureaucrats, teachers' colleges, and teachers' unions. Why aren't you fighting them?"

Let's not leave out some parents as well. None of the listed above as destroyers are against evolution.

"One of the reasons why education is suffering is because conservatives are wasting resources on this stupid fight about "intelligent design" nonsense instead of fighting to improve standards, abolishing teacher tenure, purging the social science and humanities curriculum from leftist and revisionist garbage, etc."

What resources are being wasted?? How much is it costing you?? You want the fight to end put up the white flag.

"With all the leftist horrors in public education, the one thing that gets seems to get conservatives most worked up is evolution. If that is the best we conservatives can do, our country is doomed."

TOE entered the system of education first, you tell a child they are descendants of animals they are going to act like animals. Might surprise you the good brothers donating to the public school system.

Evolution is not a sterile walled discipline, the theory/ideology is that which all other disciplines flow.
215 posted on 09/06/2005 6:10:41 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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