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Rape threat to our women (more Terror Dome accounts)
Herald Sun (Australia) ^ | 04sep05 | CHRIS TINKLER and DARYL PASSMORE

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:52:12 PM PDT by Lorianne

AUSTRALIAN survivors of Hurricane Katrina told last night of their dramatic escape from New Orleans and the unfolding civil disaster in city.

The group, joyful at fleeing the nightmare of the Louisiana city, lauded one of its members as a hero. Bud Hopes, of Brisbane, was praised for saving dozens of tourists as the supposed safe haven of the city's Superdome became a hellhole.

"I would have to say that Bud is solely responsible for our evacuation," Vanessa Cullington, 22, of Sydney, told the Sunday Herald Sun by mobile phone from a bus carrying 10 Australians to safety in Dallas, Texas.

"I dread to think what would have happened if we hadn't got out. It's so great to be free."

News of the group's escape came as reports said as many as 10,000 people might have been killed by the hurricane and its aftermath, and President George Bush ordered more troops and an increased aid effort for the stricken Gulf of Mexico states.

As the Australians left the Superdome, food and water were almost non-existent and the stiflingly hot arena was filled with 25,000 people and the stench of human waste. Gangs stalked the tourists and women were threatened with rape.

"Bud took control. He was calm and kept it together the whole time," Ms Cullington said.

Mr Hopes, 32, said: "That was the worst place in the universe. Ninety-eight per cent of the people around the world are good. In that place, 98 per cent of the people were bad.

"Everyone brought their drugs, they brought guns, they brought knives. Soldiers were shot.

"It was like a refugee camp within a prison.

"It was full on. It was the worst thing I have seen in my life. I have never been so frightened."

Realising that foreigners were a target, Mr Hopes and the other Aussies gathered tourists from Europe, South America and elsewhere into one part of the building.

"There were 65 of us, so we were able to look after each other -- especially the girls who were being grabbed and threatened." Mr Hopes said.

He said they had organised escorts for the women when they had gone for food or to the toilet, and rosters to keep guard while others slept.

"We sat through the night just watching each other, not knowing if we would be alive in the morning."

John McNeil, 20, of Brisbane, said the worst point had come after two days when soldiers had told them the power in the dome was failing and there was only 10 minutes worth of gas left.

"I looked at Bud and said, 'That will be the end of us'," Mr McNeil said.

"The gangs . . . knew where we were. If the lights had gone out we would have been in deep trouble. We prayed for a miracle and the lights stayed on."

Mr Hopes said the Australians owed their lives to a National Guard Staff Sgt Garland Ogden, who had broken the rules to get the tourists out of the dome, with 60 people being evacuated to a medical centre.

"We did some shifts at the hospital to help nurse the sick to say thank you. It was a real Aussie thing," he said.

As the bus carrying the Australians crossed the Texan border, spirits were high.

"We've had hotdogs and chips and everyone is laughing," Mr Hopes said.

Later, the bus arrived at Dallas Convention Centre, where the Australians were processed.

Family and friends gathered at the Brisbane home of Mr McNeil's parents, Peter and Mary, where they were joined by Mr Hopes's sister, Debbie Browne.

Mrs McNeil broke down when she saw images of her son leaving New Orleans.

"There have been times during this past week when we didn't know if we would see him again," she said.

Mr McNeil said he could see a change in his son.

"They've been traumatised," he said. "I think they've witnessed several atrocities."

The other Australians on the bus were Emma Hardwick, of Sydney; Simon Wood, of Wyalkatchem, WA; Michael Ryan, of Lithgow, NSW; Yasmin Bright, of Newcastle; Michelle and Lisa van Grinsven, of Sydney; and Elise Sims, Tea Tree Gully, Adelaide.

Meanwhile, three Australian couples were safe in Los Angeles, awaiting flights home after being rescued from New Orleans by a Channel 7 news crew.

Tim and Joanne Miller, of Rockhampton, Garry and Cynthia Jones, of Brisbane, and Jack and Gloria Slinger, of Perth, crammed into a four-wheel-drive vehicle with reporter Mike Amor and two colleagues for the early morning dash.

The crew had arranged to pick up two couples from the building where they were holed up and found the Slingers on the streets.

"They were very wary about about coming out of the building. It was a pretty frightening scene -- bodies, shootings, looters," Amor said.

A phone call in the middle of the night gave hope to relatives of Brisbane's Fiona Seidel and her sister-in-law, Katie Maclean.

Mrs Maclean's husband, Andrew, was contacted by a New Orleans police officer who said he had seen the pair get on a bus.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: hurricaneaussies; katrina; superdome; terrordome
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To: SamAdams76

"Anyway, I remember FoxNews interviewing two tourists, one from Australia and one from England. They were very upbeat and optimistic about how things were going to go once they got inside."

I saw the same interview and just remember the young male, 20ish, with a backpack, smiling. After reading what horrors were going on in the dome, I thought about him. I googled "Australian tourists, Katrina" and found some interesting stories. One said that he was alright. I was so happy to see that.


61 posted on 09/04/2005 7:16:08 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: muawiyah

Yep, the group from the UK told a similiar story. Whites were threatend and racial slurs were made.


62 posted on 09/04/2005 7:16:16 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Howlin

Because the minority was the majority.


63 posted on 09/04/2005 7:16:35 PM PDT by Archidamus (We are wise because we are not so highly educated as to look down on our laws and customs)
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To: SkyPilot

Thank you for all your hard work!


64 posted on 09/04/2005 7:16:53 PM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
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To: muawiyah
[Y]ou will see that the UK and Brit stories are rather melodramatic and only lightly connected to whatever the reality was.

Well, the story of a soldier being shot by a looter was also in the briefing from the NG general. For one thing. And that officer described the situation inside the Dome as violent and lawless.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

65 posted on 09/04/2005 7:17:11 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Archidamus

One of may comments was removed. I don't understand why. Goodbye, all!


66 posted on 09/04/2005 7:17:45 PM PDT by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: Archidamus

I know. So damn sad.


67 posted on 09/04/2005 7:17:49 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: ladyinred

I am very embarrassed at the image American's are projecting across the world with these lawless thugs in NO.

The vermin living in the inner cities have been an embarisment to the US for a long time.


68 posted on 09/04/2005 7:18:30 PM PDT by BadAndy (Yes liberals, I DO question your patriotism.)
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To: SkyPilot
Kindly stop blithering.

"Our women" is in the title of the original article. Articles are posted with their original titles in order to avoid duplicate posts.

69 posted on 09/04/2005 7:18:41 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: mmercier

Actually, the new anti-rape tampon should have been issued to each female entering the SD.


70 posted on 09/04/2005 7:18:47 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (I don't recognize my own country anymore.)
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To: Lorianne

An interesting and revealing post. Thank you.


71 posted on 09/04/2005 7:18:51 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: Lorianne

I shudder to think in what shelter these gang members are now.


72 posted on 09/04/2005 7:19:23 PM PDT by Giddyupgo
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To: muawiyah
THEY DID THEIR BEST:

"“The atmosphere was extremely intimidating,” the Lancaster University student said. “People stared at us all the time and men would come up to me and stroke my stomach and bottom. They would also say horrible, suggestive things. The worst time came when there was a rumour that a white man had raped a black woman. We were scared that we would be raped, robbed, or both. People were arguing, fighting and being arrested all the time.”

The “internationals”, as the army labelled the stranded tourists, were among the few white people in the stadium. Marked out by their skin colour and unfamiliar accents, they were verbally abused, while their luggage made them targets for robbery. "

73 posted on 09/04/2005 7:19:59 PM PDT by FireTrack
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To: SkyPilot

spark plug

Sorry, I couldn't resist!


74 posted on 09/04/2005 7:20:08 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: SkyPilot
Dipstick.

Oil Filter.

Low on OIL.

75 posted on 09/04/2005 7:20:17 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: Howlin

SSG Garland Ogden stepped up to the plate!


76 posted on 09/04/2005 7:20:22 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: SkyPilot

LOL!


77 posted on 09/04/2005 7:20:23 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: Lorianne

Sickening!


78 posted on 09/04/2005 7:21:17 PM PDT by RightWinger
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To: Leapfrog
Will you be going to Mardi Gras?

Before the aftermath of Katrina, I was lamenting the fact that I'd never been to Mardi Gras in the French Quarter. Now I consider myself fortunate.

79 posted on 09/04/2005 7:22:40 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: muawiyah

Minority were armed. Minority were leaders of gangs and therefore those with the strongest personalities and aura of power. And they enjoyed wielding it.

I wondered that myself until I realized an armed thug willing to kill, experienced in killing will lord over weaker souls.


80 posted on 09/04/2005 7:22:59 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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