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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: lugsoul
I am not 'persistently refusing' anything.

I apologize for asserting that. I didn't read the whole thread, and only picked up your response to my post.

Here is another description of the process, also on the DHS National Response Plan website.

Emphasis on Local Response

All incidents are handled at the lowest possible organizational and jurisdictional level. Police, fire, public health and medical, emergency management, and other personnel are responsible for incident management at the local level. For those events that rise to the level of an Incident of National Significance, the Department of Homeland Security provides operational and/or resource coordination for Federal support to on-scene incident command structures.

Proactive Federal Response to Catastrophic Events

The National Response Plan provides mechanisms for expedited and proactive Federal support to ensure critical life-saving assistance and incident containment capabilities are in place to respond quickly and efficiently to catastrophic incidents. These are high-impact, low-probability incidents, including natural disasters and terrorist attacks that result in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the population, infrastructure, environment, economy, national morale, and/or government functions.

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interapp/editorial/editorial_0569.xml
Local/Federal Response Strategies & Coordination Structure

I note the use of the word "support" in "expedited and proactive Federal support," and not the word "takeover."

821 posted on 09/05/2005 7:03:31 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
The President begged the governor to call for an evacuation before the hurricane hit. Wouldn't it be nice if this conversation was taped.

Wouldn't it be nice if CNN had to play it over and over again, like they did the pictures from Abu Ghrabib (boy does that story seem trivial now)

Well, a gal can dream, can't she?
822 posted on 09/05/2005 7:07:02 AM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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Cite to the Stafford Act, for the record and for any curious. It is a self-contained reference. I don't know if there is a similar reference for the CFR (administrative rules) aspect of this act. If so, will post a link to that as well.

http://www.fema.gov/library/stafact.shtm <- Very dry reading

823 posted on 09/05/2005 7:09:20 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: comitatus

bookmark


824 posted on 09/05/2005 7:11:35 AM PDT by tentmaker
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To: comitatus

Ping - facts about the response to disaster


825 posted on 09/05/2005 7:13:01 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (Our President's intervention saved lives.)
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To: NautiNurse

Bush 1 and Clinton - Funds raised will be handed over to affected states for the locals to determine how best to use.

OH VEY!!! Is this a bad idea or what?


826 posted on 09/05/2005 7:13:31 AM PDT by berkeleybeej (http://www.cattletoday.com/)
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To: CedarDave; Peach; All
X41 looks great. Big note of gratitude to the total $23 million donated by Waltons/WalMart.

X42 thanking his buddies, biting his lip. Pat on the back for admin response following the Northridge earthquake.

827 posted on 09/05/2005 7:15:34 AM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: lugsoul
- Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may be expedited or, under extreme circumstances, suspended in the immediate aftermath of an event of catastrophic magnitude.

All that says is the relief requestor doesn't have to necessarily follow the standard procedure (which is forms, letters, copies to certain agencies, and so on and so forth as the bureacracy goes) for making the request. E.g., a phone call might be enough in certain circumstances.

Waiving the assistance requestor's duty to follow standard procedure does not suppoert the assertion "that DHS had the authority to roll FEMA into this on its own accord."

828 posted on 09/05/2005 7:15:40 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: CedarDave

"Feel free to use any of this if is interestin or useful, much of the info came from these links to begin with."

Did mod see author's opening line granting free-use permission? Shame to waste time hoping Comitatus will soon initiate a thread he has clearly given permission for already. Could mod be persuaded to rethink this decision?

And, btw, been lurking on this thread since its inception; Nothing like FR anywhere --- its uniqueness underestimated by all media. And this thread is FR at its absolute best! Thank-you NN and all.


829 posted on 09/05/2005 7:17:07 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: Peach
Clinton was unusually subdued.
830 posted on 09/05/2005 7:17:36 AM PDT by CedarDave (MLKing, Jr: "I have a dream!", Howard Dean: "I have a scream!", Jesse Jackson: "I have a scheme!")
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To: NautiNurse
Pat on the back for admin response following the Northridge earthquake.

I'm not listening. Did X42 pat HIMSELF on the back?

Just turned it on. Clinton says he thinks they started to work to strengthen the levee system in his second term.

Should be analysis of what happened and I have strong feelings about how things should be organized and operate but the time to do that is after time passes.

831 posted on 09/05/2005 7:18:05 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Patriot from Philly

Yep. I hope in the end it comes out. And it will, but maybe not years from now, when they start writing histories and do the analysis.


832 posted on 09/05/2005 7:18:29 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Cboldt; Peach; CedarDave

Bubba says people were killed in a NOLA flood during his first term. Near the end of his 2nd term, he said a study was completed analyzing the levee system. Says he doesn't know what happened to the study.


833 posted on 09/05/2005 7:19:14 AM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: Peach

Boy, does clinton look old -- he has aged so much since his surgery.


834 posted on 09/05/2005 7:19:27 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: CedarDave

Clinton just HAD to put in there that he thinks in his second administration they tried to work on strengthening the levee system. Did you see the look X41 gave him?


835 posted on 09/05/2005 7:19:27 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Miss Marple

This may answer your question. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1477605/posts?page=26#26


836 posted on 09/05/2005 7:19:28 AM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: Peach
I'm not listening. Did X42 pat HIMSELF on the back?

No, he's stabbing the Bushes in the back.

837 posted on 09/05/2005 7:19:32 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats
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To: comitatus

bump for later detailx


838 posted on 09/05/2005 7:19:35 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Peach

And then, after saying he has Bush's back when critical questions come, he weaves in that under his administration they were improving the levees and that he has ideas on how to improve FEMA.


839 posted on 09/05/2005 7:20:23 AM PDT by Dolphy
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To: NautiNurse

Did you just hear the last question shouted out as they left the podium?

I think it was "What do you say to the people who say the levee broke on purpose". OMG


840 posted on 09/05/2005 7:20:43 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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