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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Txsleuth

Wasn't it just today the FEMA director said that he was on the phone with NO officials and they never told him there were 25,000 people in one of the convention centers? It was a place that wasn't designated a shelter but people forced their way into it.

I've never seen such ineptitude in my entire life. Ever.


401 posted on 09/04/2005 8:45:53 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: plushaye

Interesting story from a Reuters article this afternoon:

"HOUSTON - In the last week, Joseph Brant lost his apartment, walked by scores of dead in the streets, traversed pools of toxic water and endured an arduous journey to escape the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in his hometown New Orleans.

On Sunday, he was praising the Lord, saying the ordeal was a test that ended up dispelling his lifelong distrust of white people and setting his life on a new course. He said he hitched a ride Friday in a van driven by a group of white folks.

“Before this whole thing I had a complex about white people; this thing changed me forever,” said Brant, 36, a truck driver who, like many of the refugees receiving public assistance in Houston, Texas, is black.

“It was a spiritual experience for me, man,” he said of the aftermath of a catastrophe al Qaida-linked Web sites called evidence of the “wrath of God” striking an arrogant America.

Brant was one of the evacuees across Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi who gave thought to religion Sunday, almost a week after the floods changed their lives, perhaps forever."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9206991/
Some evacuees see religious message in Katrina


402 posted on 09/04/2005 8:46:43 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush: W-2-4-4!! God Bless him and his administration.)
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To: lugsoul

"I hope we don't see the Administration trying to push the 'we weren't asked' line, because they'll get crucified with their own document if they do."

Bush himself criticized FEMA - and your right, it would be political poison to push this de jure toe dancing.

This is the first test of a Homeland Security catastrophe and it is fair to say "Not much of a cheese shop".

And before the flamers light up - the big lesson is that DONT EXPECT THE GOVT TO SAVE YOUR BUTT - be prepared
- food, water , fuel and firearms.


403 posted on 09/04/2005 8:46:57 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: mabelkitty

That's a good point about the cameras. Although I imagine the gangsters would have beaten people senseless to get their hands on them.

Those poor women and children. The more I hear about what when on with the lawless SOBs, the more angry I get.

This great plan for the City of New Orleans we've always heard about seems to be "every man for himself".


404 posted on 09/04/2005 8:47:15 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: SeaBiscuit

Louisiana IS a foreign country. Only state in the nation that still goes by the Napoleonic Code (more or less).


405 posted on 09/04/2005 8:47:34 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Peach

I heard as explanation that people on their own just started towards the conventon center.


406 posted on 09/04/2005 8:47:35 PM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: All
Just though you all might be interested in what I caught on CNN a little while ago. They played taped messages from viewers commenting on Katrina. The first one said that what NO really needed was a Mayour Guilliani, the second one (predictably) ranted that we need to bring all the troops home from Iraq and send them to NO, and the third said that the disaster showed why people should not always depend on government to provide them things but should rather use their own initiatives to get things done.

I was shocked that CNN would actually play these responses, and am SO GLAD I happened to turn from Fox (Geraldo finally got to me) to hear that very encouraging little snippit!

BTW--it struck me that the lady "Geraldo rescued" was totally prepared for the hurricane. She had plenty of water and food for her, and even Dusty! Bless her soul!

407 posted on 09/04/2005 8:47:52 PM PDT by milagro
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To: BurbankKarl
Los Angeles County is refusing to take evacuees.

Can you post a source document for this please?

408 posted on 09/04/2005 8:47:56 PM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: plushaye

Thanks for posting that; I think I will make it the last thing I read tonight as it's lifted my spirits considerably.


409 posted on 09/04/2005 8:48:16 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: NautiNurse

Has anyone heard what they are going to do with the bodies they find? I know it's morbid but there will be no family/friends around to identify these people... which leads me to believe they will be incinerated because of disease and that's just horrible.


410 posted on 09/04/2005 8:48:16 PM PDT by chet_in_ny
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To: Spktyr

***Catering to illegals and nutcases is what got your state into that mess. Texas is going to end up having well more than 250,000 refugees by Monday. California, with its vast open spaces in the north, stadiums closed by enviro nuts, and unused arenas has taken... drumroll please....

750.

Seven hundred and fifty.

That's all.

This is Texas. We took point. We're doing the job. It's up to the REST of y'all to do your jobs.***

Sure, blame ME. I voted for Bush.

:)


411 posted on 09/04/2005 8:48:19 PM PDT by ShellieGOP (Thank God for Free Republic!)
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To: james_f_hall

See post #132.


412 posted on 09/04/2005 8:48:34 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: mabelkitty
Did you happen to notice as the TV coverage unfolded over the week, that there was not a single reporter inside the Superdome in NO? There were reporters inside Houston's Astrodome from the moment it was declared a shelter.

Now has any of the news media addressed why the Louisiana officials didn't allow them INSIDE the Superbowl? Has GERALDO asked that question. If GERALDO had been reporting from inside the Superbowl since last Tuesday, would the outcome of this be different?

413 posted on 09/04/2005 8:48:34 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Txsleuth

why not just have a massive federal bueracracy that has planners for us all from a central location and appoints ministers for all the cities and states, they may or may not know the geography, economy or the demography of any one particular location, but it would be far more efficient... Wouldn't it? That is what the liberals want. Remind you of anything?


414 posted on 09/04/2005 8:48:49 PM PDT by james_f_hall
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Federal forces will probably be visiting Broussard shortly to explain why that's a *bad* idea.


415 posted on 09/04/2005 8:49:15 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: lugsoul
Anyone who thinks that an investigation of this matter will show that the failure was with the state or local government in failing to request Federal involvement needs to read DHS' National Response Plan.

A link would be helpful.

I don't think you'll be pleased by what you find. It is very clear that DHS had the authority to roll FEMA into this on its own accord.

Does the document describe any criteria for this "override" of standard procedure? And the presence of the term "standard procedure" indicates that the process has variables. What is the "standard procedure?" What is the "special procedure?" Do natural disasters where the state apparatus remains fully functional justify moving from the "standard procedure?"

Katrina was a natural disater, not a terrorist attack, not without some days of warning, and was not an act of war by a foreign power.

416 posted on 09/04/2005 8:49:52 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: chet_in_ny

I'm certain we will make every effort to identify each body.

What I fear most is a full out, blame Bush mass funeral.


417 posted on 09/04/2005 8:50:15 PM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: chet_in_ny

In the NOLA area, the official morgue is set up at the airport. For MS and AL, I have not received updates.


418 posted on 09/04/2005 8:50:30 PM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: Cedar
.. the following quote in the letter from Gov. Blanco to President Bush dated Aug. 27th ..

I don't buy that for a nanosecond.

If there were any credence to it, the headlines EVERYWHERE would have been four stories high, beginning Monday the 29th.

Variation on the theme already outted by Buckhead.

419 posted on 09/04/2005 8:50:47 PM PDT by tomkat
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420 posted on 09/04/2005 8:50:48 PM PDT by Gideon7
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