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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: DrewsMum

Before last week, I didn't want to see the demise of the Democratic Party. As an idea, it provides a balance against bad ideas (in theory) that might come from our side of the fence, and it was what our Founders intended.

After seeing what happened last week and thinking about it some, I can no longer countenance the existence of a party whose members left 250,000 Americans to die in New Orleans through inaction, negligence, and infighting.

The Democratic Party must be exterminated as an effective party. They truly are Nazism under a new flag and new label now.


3,421 posted on 09/05/2005 11:47:38 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

and where might i find that video?? on their website??


3,422 posted on 09/05/2005 11:48:13 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Just cause I talk slow don't mean that I am, but then again....)
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To: hipaatwo
SNCC...an old member of SNCC?

Will somebody, ANYBODY, please tell these people ( and I use the word loosely ) that this is 2005 and not,not, NOT 1969,1970,nor even 1973.

3,423 posted on 09/05/2005 11:48:31 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: plushaye

bttt


3,424 posted on 09/05/2005 11:49:30 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DrewsMum

Took the words right outta my mouth!! Muhammed, indeed!!!!


3,425 posted on 09/05/2005 11:49:39 PM PDT by nuclady
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To: Spktyr
Then he should have used the media spotlight he was in and publicized the whole thing.

Well, it's not like he had much time to work with. I'm not excusing him. But the published plan was unrealistic, calling for evacuation of outlying parishes, then voluntary evacuation of New Orleans, then mandatory evacuation. That plan was stupid- to carry it out would have taken what, four days? This storm came out of nowhere fast.

It appears the state rigidly followed the plan and used up all the time that should have been used for mandatory evacuations. Nagin was up against the wall: he had one day to perform a mandatory evacuation. With traffic as bad as it was Sunday, he could have only gotten one trip out of the buses- and he didn't have time to force Blanco to open up shelters, even if he went public.

There was a very real chance those buses could have gotten stuck in a traffic jam while the hurricane blew over, or ran out of gas before he could get the riders to shelter.

Nagin isn't innocent, but at the same time, look who he had to work with.

3,426 posted on 09/05/2005 11:49:55 PM PDT by montanus
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To: Rokke

thanks----you're a peach---and he's a uh,,well i'm not a cussin girl,,,,


3,427 posted on 09/05/2005 11:50:03 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Just cause I talk slow don't mean that I am, but then again....)
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To: DrewsMum

Yeah. They might have it on their website.


3,428 posted on 09/05/2005 11:50:37 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: nopardons
Dear Lord. READ THE POSTS REGARDING ALL OF IT. You have no idea what you're talking about. The claim was that city buses were used to evacuate beforehand--were picking up people all over town and TAKING THEM OUT OF THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS.

Now, kindly BACK OFF and get educated. Thank you.

3,429 posted on 09/05/2005 11:50:52 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: hipaatwo

Holy cow!


3,430 posted on 09/05/2005 11:51:33 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: montanus

I beg to differ, just a little,,,,the LA state emergency plan says that as soon as a CAT 3 or higher is in the gulf of mexico it is considered a threat to NO and the officials should begin to carry out the plans,,,,I'm paraphrasing but I can give you the link if you need,,, please correct me if you find info to the contrary


3,431 posted on 09/05/2005 11:52:50 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Just cause I talk slow don't mean that I am, but then again....)
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To: hipaatwo

Doesn't surprise me. The former mayor, now on the board of the National Urban League was frothing-at-the-mouth with complete idiocy with his blame Bush tripe on MTP on Sunday.


3,432 posted on 09/05/2005 11:53:22 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: Spktyr

Before last week, I didn't want to see the demise of the Democratic Party. As an idea, it provides a balance against bad ideas (in theory) that might come from our side of the fence, and it was what our Founders intended



Actually, George Washington advised against political parties, but they were inevitable,,,,and what a sad country this would be if we all thought alike,,,but I really wouldn't mind seeing the downfall of the dems, flipside is that a worse party might emerge,,,,actually, I could handle the green party or the libertarians---


3,433 posted on 09/05/2005 11:56:45 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Just cause I talk slow don't mean that I am, but then again....)
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To: DrewsMum
the LA state emergency plan says that as soon as a CAT 3 or higher is in the gulf of mexico it is considered a threat to NO and the officials should begin to carry out the plans,,,,

That's true. The plans were evacuate citizens by bus, but the mayor chucked those plans out the window as recently as July of 2005. Stating in a Times-Picayune article 'You're On Your Own'.

3,434 posted on 09/05/2005 11:57:56 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: nopardons

OH yea, the black panthers and the muslims are butt buddies,,,


3,435 posted on 09/05/2005 11:58:25 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Just cause I talk slow don't mean that I am, but then again....)
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To: All

sorry for my potty mouth,,,,cleaning it out as we speak


3,436 posted on 09/05/2005 11:59:19 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Just cause I talk slow don't mean that I am, but then again....)
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To: Spktyr
RE: "The Democratic Party must be exterminated as an effective party. They truly are Nazism under a new flag and new label now."


All of your suspicions/thoughts are correct. I was active in my cop Union PAC and went on retreats and seminars with Demo speakers spotlighted. They don't like this nation and see it as 99% responsible for all the worlds problems. All of their activities are to undermine us as a nation.
3,437 posted on 09/05/2005 11:59:34 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

could you email that bill oreilly???? He might like to see that,,,,


3,438 posted on 09/06/2005 12:00:09 AM PDT by DrewsMum (Just cause I talk slow don't mean that I am, but then again....)
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To: Miss Behave
I've read enough of the posts; I suggest that you reread them.

Try following your own advice, re getting educated!

3,439 posted on 09/06/2005 12:01:46 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: montanus

All he had to do is say something like the following in one of the many news conferences that he had:

"I am ordering a mandatory evacuation of the city. Our plan calls for us to bus our citizens to Baton Rouge and other cities out of the strike path; however, our Governor has refused to accept them or open shelters for them. Therefore, I am going before national TV like this to request that the Governor change her mind so that we can save as many of our citizens as possible. In the event that we cannot get everyone out, there are several shelters of last resort in the city..."


3,440 posted on 09/06/2005 12:02:10 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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