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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Txsleuth

Don't know, I was talking about the ones they used to transport people out of NO.


3,081 posted on 09/05/2005 7:33:43 PM PDT by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: Petronski

Thank you : ) I do want to correct a couple of things, though. After I posted, I read that the generator was in the basement and failed. There's also a carbon monoxide problem with running generators in enclosed spaces. There must have been a way to have several generators running in tandem on the upper floors. I have never used a generator, so I don't know the logistics of that, but I do know someone would figure it out.

Then there was the toilet situation. There was a big rock concert called Cal Jam II, held at the old Ontario Motor Speedway, back in '78. It was a couple of days long, I don't remember how many people were there, but let me tell you about overflowing porta-potties. The sludge sucked the sandals right off my feet, and I told my best friend to get everyone because we need to leave. We hosed our feet down at the closest gas station. The smell sobered me up instantly.

The difference is that we chose to be there. Can you imagine being pregnant, having small kids, or being elderly, and have to deal with that? We were outside too, not stuck in a building with no cool air. I forgot all about Cal Jam, until I read some of the Super Dome accounts.

I know we can't depend on government, but this is ridiculous.


3,082 posted on 09/05/2005 7:34:15 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: Letitring

That place stunk two years ago when I went to the SEC Tournament. It's bathrooms were completely outdated except for the club or above level.
It's a shame I've seen some really good basketball and football in that place, great memories but just looking at the outside of the place it ought to be bulldozed.


3,083 posted on 09/05/2005 7:35:02 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
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To: Brad's Gramma

You Sweetheart. Yes, I need plenty of Free Republic, my friends here and some Fox News. :) I do believe my attitude will perk right up. :)


3,084 posted on 09/05/2005 7:35:16 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: gg188
She's looking like Ellen DeGenerate. Definitely going after the dyke vote.

ROFLMAO
Do you mean "Dyke" or "Dike"?
3,085 posted on 09/05/2005 7:36:15 PM PDT by 76834 (There's nothing wrong with sobriety in moderation.)
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To: Peach

Nah Peach. It was John Kasich who was Condit's buddy. I was the repositor of all Condit knowledge until 9/11 made me stop caring.


3,086 posted on 09/05/2005 7:36:19 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: publana

They will need every single one of them. No doubt!

In fact, I would advise doubling that number of LE officers. :)


3,087 posted on 09/05/2005 7:37:49 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: JerseyHighlander
You'll love to hear this, Pirro just proposed the suspension of the federal gas tax as part of her platform. She beat Hillary to the punch! LOL, out-hillary hillary indeed.

Until the supply problems are fixed to the point that stations consistently have gas, I don't see how reducing the federal gas tax would help anything. If producers are already producing as much as they can, the consumer price will be set by the quantity of gas produced and the consumer demand curve. The only question is how much of that money will go to suppliers and how much to the government.

Once things have somewhat stabilized to the point that producers could increase quantity to meet the increased consumer demand that would result from a lower price, then reducing the gas tax might have a useful effect on consumer prices. But I don't know that we're there yet.

3,088 posted on 09/05/2005 7:38:11 PM PDT by supercat (Don't fix blame--FIX THE PROBLEM.)
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To: Seattle Conservative

< Maybe he should have looked up and seen some of the 300 helicopters Gen Honore metnioned earlier. >

He mentioned that yesterday. He was upset about all the helicopters. He said there needed to be more boats. "The people are in the water, down here", was close to what he said. He said something about the copters no getting enough people.


3,089 posted on 09/05/2005 7:38:24 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance most, have the least for my views.)
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To: dogbyte12

What's the scoop on Scarborough. I read something ugly about him and I've forgotten...


3,090 posted on 09/05/2005 7:38:44 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: NautiNurse

LOL. Plug!? What plug?


3,091 posted on 09/05/2005 7:39:51 PM PDT by fishntex (Something is actually happening Reg)
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To: Ellesu

Well gee, if they had a working group insuring people's safety, they wouldn't need a website to spin lies about Republicans!

The gall of these jackasses!!!


3,092 posted on 09/05/2005 7:39:53 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: GOP_Proud

Why is that dopehead even given the time of day?


3,093 posted on 09/05/2005 7:40:09 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: supercat

No, but excellent PR from Piro. I think that woman is much smarter than the MSM is giving her credit...


3,094 posted on 09/05/2005 7:40:18 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: WoodstockCat

I've heard similiar:
5,000 pounds of burning sulphur snd 5,000 gallons of formaldehyde couldnt make a dent on this mess.

Just glad I live WAY upwind.


3,095 posted on 09/05/2005 7:40:22 PM PDT by 76834 (There's nothing wrong with sobriety in moderation.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Don't lecture me on things you know little about.

Gee, he sounds like a swell guy!

Joe, you are a loser that's greatest thrill in life is kissing up to your Liberal cronies at MsNBC. Learn to live with it.

3,096 posted on 09/05/2005 7:40:53 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: Soul Seeker

I stewed all day about whether to share it on here. I did tell him that I don't know hurricanes, but do know earthquakes that it's everyone for themselves for at least 5 days and not to count on the government to come swooping in to save me.


3,097 posted on 09/05/2005 7:43:14 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Peach

8:10 P.M. - Rev. Jesse Jackson: There must be a moratorium made on banks/businesses foreclosing on home owners who’ve missed payments because of Hurricane Katrina. The federal government should put a freeze on all foreclosures for the time being.


8:08 P.M. - Jackson: There is a surplus of water and diapers, what we need are mobile homes.


8:06 P.M. - Jackson: Venezuela offered help, but was turned away.


8:05 P.M. - Jackson: Sending people away to Utah, Montana and Minnesota makes no sense. Send them to local military facilities that are not in use, and bringing mobile homes in for people to stay in. Cleo (Fields) is talking about opening up state parks that have cabins and living facilities for evacuees. Louisianans should be living in Louisiana.


FEMA did not have a plan for a massive rescue or of receiving of evacuees. Said Homeland Security turned away the American Red Cross by saying it was too dangerous.


7:42 P.M. - Congressman Bobby Jindal: People who want to volunteer for search and rescue operations, police from outside the state who want to help, all should be able to come to New Orleans without fear of wading through bureaucratic red tape. My constitutients don't care who brings them food and water, or take them to safety, just help these people.


On rebuilding the city: Shame on us if we strive to rebuild the same city -- education and health care wise, etc. We should use this opportunity to construct a better New Orleans. Let's use these resources which can only help to contribute to this greater goal. We need to maintain our history while building for the future.


7:42 P.M. - Jindal: Don't just tell people what they want to hear, be honest with them and let them know that you have a plan for the future. The people don't expect to have all their problems solved overnight, but they expect a plan.


7:37 P.M. - New Orleans Saints head coach Jim Haslett during Monday's press conference:


Q: There ae published reports coming out of Louisiana that the team may never return to New Orleans again. How would you react to that?


Haslett: "I don't know where they would get those reports and I don't think they are true. I think that is the last thing on anybodies mind right now. If somebody would say that obviously they do not have a good handle on what they are talking about so I don't think that is true by any means whatsoever. I don't think it is on anyone's mind and that is something that is going to have to be determined after the season is over. Right now we have four months of football and hopefully we can get though those and get into the playoffs and then figure out where we are going to live. Hopefully it is back where we came from."


Q: Do you have a preference for your home games between San Antonio and Baton Rouge?


Haslett: "I would like to have them here because we are practicing here but I think we owe it to the fans of New Orleans, the Gulf Coast, all the people in Baton Rouge, all the way up to Lafayette and Shreveport. We have season ticket holders all over the Gulf Coast not just New Orleans. I think we owe it to the state and to the region to play a couple games back in Baton Rouge, if we can."


7:30 P.M. - Dr. Tim Ryan, UNO Chancellor: The city has to convince people that the levee has been corrected before people will come back to the city. Home security is a major issue. The real estate market will greatly depend upon the number of people willing to stay in town or move back from outside the state.


7:25 P.M. - Ryan: Leadership, at all levels, will be critical in making sure that the money is distributed properly, and that people/businesses are not scammed.


7:20 P.M. - Ryan : I don't care what the Speaker of the House says, this is a great city. New Orleans is a treasure.


7:17 P.M. - Ryan: The city will see an economic boom as tens of billions of dollars pour into town from all levels: FEMA, the federal government, the corporations, local and private money. Small business will be a concern.


3,098 posted on 09/05/2005 7:44:25 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

He's gone over to the dark side.


3,099 posted on 09/05/2005 7:44:29 PM PDT by sissyjane
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To: NautiNurse
Bubba is going to marvel at how his own admin worked right up to the end planning to improve the levee system. When Clintoon left office, everyone on the planet dropped the ball. I'm taking bets on this one..

You'll win.

I heard him this morning during a presser stating that he had started research to see how much and what they needed to redo the levee situation. He believed those directions weren't followed after leaving office.

He also took a shot at Bush stating he's sure there will be a commission like the 9-11 commission to investigate Katrina later.

AND he repeatedly mentioned he has a plan to redo FEMA and would be glad to show his solutions to anybody interested later.

The above isn't his exact wording, but is the gist of it. I was listening on the radio; therefore was unable to see 41's face while Clinton was pontificating. It didn't seem like 30 minutes later that PIAPS came out and called for a 9-11 Commission. How much longer until she announces HER new plan for FEMA?
3,100 posted on 09/05/2005 7:44:53 PM PDT by publana
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