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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: JohnBovenmyer

Shortsighted plans are no excuse for shortsighted leadership.

#1 The idea that the plan had no provision for a levee-breach contingency is ludicrous.

#2 The idea that NO ONE ELSE (upon reading the plan) was able to make the observation in #1 is profoundly surreal.


2,521 posted on 09/05/2005 4:21:28 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg.)
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas
I just checked the Red Cross database at http://www.familylinks.icrc.org/katrina/locate

Database search doesn't turn them up the Mosly's, but

2,522 posted on 09/05/2005 4:22:48 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Costs - costs a lot more to put it on a roof and arrange for proper exhaust than to put it in the basement and vent it outside.

Me, I'd put it on the roof and say the heck with the expense.


2,523 posted on 09/05/2005 4:22:56 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Costs - costs a lot more to put it on a roof and arrange for proper exhaust than to put it in the basement and vent it outside.

Me, I'd put it on the roof and say the heck with the expense.


2,524 posted on 09/05/2005 4:22:57 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ohioWfan

I know Haiball is a no-no for you...but I have to post something I just saw on there...I do closed-captioning so I don't have to listen to Chrissy squeal...

Anyway, he is interviewing the Mayor of Kenner over the phone, and the mayor was complaining (of course) about not enough help...yada yada...then he said "There needs to be someone in charge, we need one person to step up and take charge and that person hasn't shown up"....

I guess he hasn't had a personal encounter with Lt. Gen. HONORE yet!!!! LOL


2,525 posted on 09/05/2005 4:23:20 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Spktyr

The arena was running on generator power before the storm really hit...


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There is yet another "why" question! --- power grid down before the storm?


2,526 posted on 09/05/2005 4:23:39 PM PDT by maica (Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home. ---Allegra (in Iraq))
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To: easonc52
"So Mother Nature (or Katrina) would have to be declared a terrorist?"

Nope.

2,527 posted on 09/05/2005 4:24:10 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: BurbankKarl

they were headed to St. Charles, the sister of Hale and the grandmother are in BR Shelter with amom


2,528 posted on 09/05/2005 4:24:27 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (Freeper amom will be reporting live from BRLA)
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To: maica

I would certainly like to see Landrieu out on her patootie. After the sham election that got her in last time. I have never watched such an OBVIOUS cheat machine in my life.


2,529 posted on 09/05/2005 4:24:38 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us western Canuks should separate from Central Canada and join the USA. More Repubs!!)
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To: Petronski

The SuperDome had generator lights, but no air conditioning during the storm.


2,530 posted on 09/05/2005 4:24:59 PM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: maica

That's what WWL-TV reported (among other sources). The power grid started having problems right before Katrina made landfall and went down hard right before the storm hit, IRRC.


2,531 posted on 09/05/2005 4:25:09 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Jindal's response to "Isn't stocking the SuperDome a local responsibility" was "Now is not the time to point fingers - things are getting better - now is the time to rescue."

My paraphrase, but not made up. That was his response.

2,532 posted on 09/05/2005 4:25:43 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: SauronOfMordor

Thanks, who else has lists, is the Red Cross the only one? I checked that one too, but had no luck, the grandmother is FRANTIC


2,533 posted on 09/05/2005 4:26:04 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (Freeper amom will be reporting live from BRLA)
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To: grey_whiskers

I thought the same.


2,534 posted on 09/05/2005 4:26:09 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Petronski; cyborg

I can tell you from someone who lives at the south shore of long island, there is no plan to evacuate long island. its impossible to do. the best plan I have seen is that everyone north of sunrise highway "evacuates in place", and everyone south of it simply "goes north". where they go, I have no idea. for those that don't have friends and family, we have one coliseum that holds maybe 20K people, other parts of the plan say that people should drive to the shopping malls and park in the concrete parking structures and ride it out there in their cars.


2,535 posted on 09/05/2005 4:26:37 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: NautiNurse

After the storm though, during the flooding, the lights failed too. Or am I mistaken?


2,536 posted on 09/05/2005 4:26:47 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg.)
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To: easonc52; Leapfrog
So Mother Nature (or Katrina) would have to be declared a terrorist?

LOL!

One thing some people seem to keep forgetting is that THERE WAS A HURRICANE! You can't send the military into 150 mile an hour winds, posse comatatus or not, and you can't send them into raging floodwaters.

This whole discussion is getting ridiculous! There was no 'slowness' of response on the President's or the government's part.

THERE WAS A HURRICANE!!!

2,537 posted on 09/05/2005 4:26:54 PM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: NautiNurse

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1477440/posts?page=2493#2493


2,538 posted on 09/05/2005 4:27:03 PM PDT by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: JaneAustin

"Be sure to read his explaination about the phrase "good ole white boys""

I thought you might have been joking about that, but sure enough, it's in there. Thanks for the link.
I've been trying to find links about levee funding. So far it looks like the feds only supply a fraction of the levee boards income. So much for blaming it all on the feds. Other funding comes from gambling revenues as well as funding from the state.


2,539 posted on 09/05/2005 4:27:53 PM PDT by owl37
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To: Roccus

Elaine Chao, Secretary of Labor, has been on TV and radio trying to get out the message about massive support for employment insurance payouts - even for self-employed on some kind of basis. She mentioned going to the Dept of Labor website. dol.org


2,540 posted on 09/05/2005 4:28:34 PM PDT by maica (Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home. ---Allegra (in Iraq))
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