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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: No Blue States

The math I posted earlier hasn't and can't change. The assumptions can though, a big one being that people are hard to kill. They hold onto trees for hours, they come out of newly chopped roof holes wearing backpacks and looking clean, they swim through gasoline, and they endure and survive sub-animal conditions in places like the CC and dome, complaining but alive.

That said, I'm sticking with those numbers, 40-400k.

I'm hearing noises from Biloxi that the count there will top out soon, with current count in the 200 range. If true, I will revise earlier estimates downward, but I don't think this optimism is justified just yet.

Still almost no word from Long Beach, St. Louis Bay et al, Pass Christian, Slidell, Plaqemines Parish, St. Bernard Parish or east Orleans Parish, the areas hardest hit. Ditto Moss, Pascagoula and Gautier, which are outside what I'm calling the black hole, those areas straddling the eye's center track.

Sure, the focus on NO could be blocking those reports out, and then again, maybe there just isn't enough knowlege yet to report on.

I will take this opp to point up the need for anything, even anecdotal reports, from those areas, because the NO media blitz may be divertig our attention from an oncoming blindside.


1,921 posted on 09/05/2005 1:48:15 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: Seattle Conservative
I hope that's all it is.

I think so. My guess is that this has happened several times in several places and we've only heard about Utah.

1,922 posted on 09/05/2005 1:48:49 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Txsleuth

I had to turn it off; Newt is getting on my last nerve.

Mr. Peach doesn't like to play backgammon with me because he loses so much. So now I mostly play on the computer.


1,923 posted on 09/05/2005 1:48:50 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: livius

"I think Condi is going to be the new model for all of us.."

LOL

I am 5'4"...I am afraid I could NEVER wear what Condi does, and look as good as she does...


1,924 posted on 09/05/2005 1:48:54 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Peach

He'll cake his cell phone...don't know about a laptop..


1,925 posted on 09/05/2005 1:48:56 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Home of the free, because of the Brave.....do you understand that Cindy?)
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To: John Jamieson

Most of the downtown area was dry. Even if the buses had returned to where they sit now, they sit in 4 feet of water max, with the seats 6 feet above. Better ro be in a wet bus than be dead, like so many are. Your response is an excuse.


1,926 posted on 09/05/2005 1:48:56 PM PDT by RTINSC
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To: oceanview
Well, I know you know this, but a guy like Forbes should FIND OUT the facts before he shoots off his mouth on TV.

This is disgusting!

1,927 posted on 09/05/2005 1:49:33 PM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: Brad's Gramma

its on today. tony snow and hannity are doing well today. not sure if laura ingraham was live today.

Hannity now urging his listeners not to let the political attacks on Bush sour them on donating money.


1,928 posted on 09/05/2005 1:49:47 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

Live? Thanks!!!! I gave up earlier and don't have anything on.


1,929 posted on 09/05/2005 1:50:17 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: mystery-ak

When is he leaving?


1,930 posted on 09/05/2005 1:50:28 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: GOP_Proud

I'm thirsty and tired. If I can go there, Camp Dawson, I'll stop flushing the loo for a few days.
Where do I sign up?


1,931 posted on 09/05/2005 1:50:40 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: Miss Marple

Mike just said, if he can, he'll get it for you.....LOL


1,932 posted on 09/05/2005 1:50:43 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Home of the free, because of the Brave.....do you understand that Cindy?)
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To: owl37

There have been radio comms with the US military authorities clashing with the National Guard commanders...there have been several run ins actually.


1,933 posted on 09/05/2005 1:50:45 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: ohioWfan

Forbes has been in the Hamptons all weekend, golfing and at cocktail parties.


1,934 posted on 09/05/2005 1:50:50 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: owl37
In this case why would Blanco retaining control over the Louisiana National Guard impede the feds from helping? I guess I'm trying to figure out what Bush's side of the story in all this might be.

Bush's side is that the feds can do ONLY what they are told or asked to do. The feds don't tell the state what to do.

As to why Blanco would not admit Nat'l Guard (under her control) into NOLA, the reason that the officials on-site gave to the Red Cross was that there was a state of civil unrest. Rescuers could be shot by thugs. The governor said publicy that the effort was going fine, but on the ground, the message was "don't go in there."

It's up to the state apparatus first, to asses situation and request appropriate assistance.

1,935 posted on 09/05/2005 1:51:25 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Txsleuth
"that they made residential areas out of swampland"

That would be true from Boston to Brownsville, also for hundreds of miles each side of the Mississippi. And many other places in the world.

Boston just spent $14B of federal funds building I-93 (the Kerry/Kennedy evacuation highway)100 feet below Boston Bay.
1,936 posted on 09/05/2005 1:51:33 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Isn't that the Christian Ministries center that Jim Baker got involved with after he got out of prison? I've heard some really good things about it.


1,937 posted on 09/05/2005 1:51:37 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: cksharks

Oh, dear, bless your heart...you have been through a lot.

Helping out another family after what you are going through sounds awfully generous...are you sure you are up to it.

You are gonna need your strength for your recuperation you know.

I will pray for you...and please keep us updated on how you are doing, okay..?


1,938 posted on 09/05/2005 1:51:58 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Miss Marple

John Kane, 49, fights back tears as he talks about riding out Hurricane Katrina inside his Lower Garden District home in New Orleans. Kane plans on staying in his house. (Robert Gauthier / LAT) September 4, 2005

1,939 posted on 09/05/2005 1:52:14 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Uncle Ike
You have a good point there.

The government (i.e. Bush) should have been able to prevent this disaster.........and the government (i.e. Bush) should have been able to snap his fingers and make all the problems go away.

I tend to agree that it is a matter of 'faith' in their government that makes them disregard facts.

1,940 posted on 09/05/2005 1:52:24 PM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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