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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: maryz

for sure. FNC has video of rescue boats with relief workers screaming into the streets - some people just came out of their houses like nothing was happening and said "you want us to leave?". the guy on the boat was incredulous.


1,301 posted on 09/05/2005 11:32:43 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Rokke

You said the state had to approve the federalization of the National Guard.

In 1962, President Kennedy nationalized (by executive order) the Mississippi National Guard in preparation for the admittance of James Meredith to the Univ Of Mississippi.

Kennedy was concerned that Gov Ross Barnett would actively use the Guard to keep Meredith from registering for classes there.

In 1962, there was no way that Barnett or the Legislature would have allowed this to happen.

Have laws changed since then that prohibits the President from nationalizing Guard units w/o state approval?


1,302 posted on 09/05/2005 11:33:01 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: lugsoul
"- Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may be expedited or, under extreme circumstances, suspended in the immediate aftermath of an event of catastrophic magnitude."

The problem here still remains that the governor must agree and allow, and most assuredly, not attempt to manipulate such a response for personal or political reasons.

There will be those who say the feds should have simply disregarded any balking on Blanco's part and gone in regardless, but they forget that these legalities are in place to PROTECT individual citizens. If the federal government had been infiltrated by those who wish the citizens harm, these same legalities protect them FROM wrongful federal government intervention.

The individual in this country has the most power. The individual citizen gives SOME power to other entities, beginning with their local government and ENDING with the federal government. I don't even like having to say something that simple, but this is what the left would have us alter and it is also what most citizens of other nations do NOT understand about our Constitution and our laws.

1,303 posted on 09/05/2005 11:35:04 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: MplsSteve
Have laws changed since then that prohibits the President from nationalizing Guard units w/o state approval?

I've read that the law was changed precisely to prevent what Kennedy (and before him Eisenhower) did from happening again. Don't recall the details, but I'm sure you can find them.

1,304 posted on 09/05/2005 11:35:06 AM PDT by maryz
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To: oceanview

I'm impressed with the kid that took a bus and rescued people on his own. It would be nice if they had a high elected officials in LA with this kid's clear thinking heroics.


1,305 posted on 09/05/2005 11:35:28 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas

What do you need? Where do we send it to?


1,306 posted on 09/05/2005 11:35:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you will lie against you.)
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To: Rokke

well said. alot of americans, and most of the political leadership, are very immature, they think the flood of a major city on tuesday ought to be wrapped up by thursday or friday at the latest, otherwise its declared a "quagmire" and the focus then shifts to "who is to blame".


1,307 posted on 09/05/2005 11:36:00 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Spktyr

It fits. The only problem is that you can't limit the possibilities to that one from the video alone, but it does fit.

Pilot can confirm or deny.

If he confirms, then why did it lose power? Lead contamination of the engine compartment or gearbox?


1,308 posted on 09/05/2005 11:36:02 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: McGavin999

In this politically correct time we often forget that there are human feelings involved.

I wonder how those who have loved ones that died will deal with that in the future.

I know it would be extremely hard for me to just leave a dead loved one with out knowing what will happen to the body.


1,309 posted on 09/05/2005 11:36:59 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Ellesu; comitatus

Some other revealing info you can add to your piece.


1,310 posted on 09/05/2005 11:37:23 AM PDT by CedarDave (MLKing, Jr: "I have a dream!", Howard Dean: "I have a scream!", Jesse Jackson: "I have a scheme!")
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Good point.

The Governor apparently was going to go AWOL from her state. She's a real gem.


1,311 posted on 09/05/2005 11:37:26 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Txsleuth

O'Reilly's worthless.


1,312 posted on 09/05/2005 11:38:20 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker

What is going on on CNN with Chertoff, Brown, and Honore?


1,313 posted on 09/05/2005 11:38:42 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: MplsSteve

They just asked Chertoff a related question (re; no control over NG) in the press conference on now


1,314 posted on 09/05/2005 11:39:37 AM PDT by RDTF
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To: Howlin

Not sure? I wasn't watching CNN.

Chertoff is on answering questions at a conference on FOX right now.


1,315 posted on 09/05/2005 11:40:16 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: RDTF

What was his announcement?


1,316 posted on 09/05/2005 11:40:16 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Txsleuth

someone must have gotten to OReilly over the weekend, his shows last week on FNC, he was saying the opposite.


1,317 posted on 09/05/2005 11:40:27 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Dolphy

How do I prove that many black churches are responding or black friends of mine who have volunteered with the Red Cross?

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Try to see Video of President Bush with Rev J D Hakes? in a huge church sponsored relief center. It was on Fox about an hour ago.


1,318 posted on 09/05/2005 11:40:56 AM PDT by maica (Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home. ---Allegra (in Iraq))
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To: MplsSteve

Yes, they have, and besides which, Kennedy had a friendly Supreme Court - they were pissed off at Mississippi for ignoring their order.


1,319 posted on 09/05/2005 11:41:09 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: RDTF

I would have told them that efforts to politicize a natural disaster are directly responsible for the deaths of storm victims who survived the hurricane and flood, who would have otherwise survived the aftermath as well, if some people weren't interested only in what benefit they can wrest from this catastrophe.

I would have included the term "vultures" and the phrase "feeding on the dead".

With any luck at all, some of them would have been...offended.



1,320 posted on 09/05/2005 11:41:13 AM PDT by jeffers
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