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Louisiana - Hurricane devastates Plaquemines
The Advocate (Baton Rouge, LA) ^ | September 4, 2005 | Amy Wold

Posted on 09/03/2005 10:48:22 PM PDT by HAL9000

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To: Petronski
"How many people in Plaquemines survived to do any of that?"

Let's see if we can educate you a bit...

1. Most of the folks from Plaquemines to Mobile survived and are not raping, killing or stealing. They are pulling together, cleaning up and helping others less fortunate than themselves.

2. Most crude oil in the southern U.S. is very fluid. Some wells produce crude that can actually be used directly in diesel engines until the paraffin clogs the filters in a week or so.

Hope this helps!

21 posted on 09/04/2005 8:03:56 PM PDT by FireTrack
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To: FireTrack

Yes, it helps!


22 posted on 09/04/2005 8:05:13 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg.)
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To: Petronski
How many people in Plaquemines survived to do any of that?

I have no idea. I don't even know where Plaquemines is relative to downtown NO, or to the Convention Center, or Jefferson Parish. Just random names on a keyboard-- I have relied on Free Republic rather than broadcast media for the most part.

I just love it how you make your little dig about race and then extend your prayers for all.

I don't recall that ANY of these were given a location, other than "New Orleans": Plaquemines was not mentioned, so I don't know how chaotic and violent it is there. The reason I mentioned people "native" to Plaquemines is that it was mentioned in a number of places that the criminals had commandeered boats (allowing transport from place to place where the flood hadn' subsided) and they could have been the ones doing the shooting, rather than the residents. I.e. the easy pickings for robbery and rape where they started had run dry, and they were moving elsewhere for more victims; so naturally they wouldn't want anyone getting rescued just yet. Any shooting at rescuers, by people in your vicinity, is likely to get everyone in that vicinity ignored.

And rapes of pre-teen girls are probably indicative of an unstable environment, which rescuers are probably going to avoid for the time being.

In the meantime, prayers for all are not indicative of racism, rather the opposite.

Please re-consider your post. Is there someone else whose posts you are annoyed at?

Full Disclosure: About the violence, I have read:

1. Quotes from foreign sites about tourists speaking of the rape and murder of a 14 year old girl (at either the SD or the convention center, I forget which) after she had wandered away from her parents.

2. Quotes from refugees stating that men had been hiding in the bathroom at the SD, then raping women and slitting their throats.

3. I believe a Fox News account near the convention center that a man had been shot for trying to rape a 13 year old girl.

4. Accounts that a man had been beaten to death by a mob for raping a girl in the Superdome.

5. Accounts of a flotilla of able-bodied men attempting to begin ad hoc rescue work, but turning back under sniper fire.

6. Accounts of looting of Sporting Goods Stores and Wal-Marts in which the firearms were stolen.

7. Accounts of police trapped in a police station by sniper fire.

8. Accounts of a sheriff's deputy and his family taken hostage by thugs at a prison.

9. Accounts of firefighters trapped on the roof of (I think) a building owned by SBC, by snipers.

10. Accounts of a policeman shot in the head by one looter while trying to arrest another. (Shortly after, it was said the policeman would live.)

11. Accounts of conversations by a man outside the city, with an FBI agent, who suggested that the real reason the US 82nd division and/or 101st Airborne division were sent to NO was to deal with the criminal element.

12. Foreign news accounts of tourists trapped in the SD who were explicitly threatened with being murdered.

13. Accounts of a National Guardsman shot to death in the SD.

14. Accounts of another National Guardsman shot in the leg in the SD.

15. Accounts of a group of over 80 policemen attempting to enter the dome to restore order, but being repelled by force.

16. Firsthand accounts of a man attempting to retrieve important papers from his house, having to arm himself and a friend with shotguns and handguns before being able to drive to his neighborhood--he said the scene there looked like Blackhawk Down where the whole neighborhood was armed with some kind of weapon.

17. Accounts of policemen killing themselves from the stress.

18. Accounts of major news organizations having to hire private security for their reporters, as their safety could not otherwise be guaranteed.

19. In Account 16 above, statements that the National Guard were without weapons or ammunition due to (IIRC) their supply column running out of fuel, or washed out roads, or something, in MS.

20. Accounts of young men with machetes threatening to steal a generator until a .357 magnum was fired over their head.

21. Accounts of houses looted with the owners' bodies left floating in the muck in the entryway.

22. Accounts that even the NOPD would not venture out except in groups of 6-7 armed men.

23. Accounts that contractors from the US Army Corps of Engineers were under fire from thugs.

24...these were all off of the top of my head, without even searching any of the threads. There is probably much, much, more.

Are you really suggesting prayer is INAPPROPRIATE at this point?

23 posted on 09/04/2005 9:42:28 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: HAL9000

If anyone can tell us, anything, we would appreciate it. We are concerned about a trailer and the Lion's club next to it, in Buras. Also, does anyone know how ,or if, the Riverbend Convalescent Center, on Hwy. 23, in Belle Chasse, made out? Does one still need to be in a boat, to come check on their land,etc? After reading of a tornado, down hwy, 23, was the middle-school,( the one there in Belle Chasse) the school that was hit?. Any info would be appreciated.A posting, such as the one soon after the storm, by Hal 9000,( a bird's-eye description, of the little towns,) (revised) would sorely, be appreciated. Bless everyone.


24 posted on 09/18/2005 10:09:51 AM PDT by Finnish
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To: Finnish
Some info may be available here - www.plaqueminesparish.com

A few articles are indexed here with keyword plaquemines.

25 posted on 09/18/2005 11:09:28 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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