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Lt. Gen. Honore a 'John Wayne dude'
CNN ^ | Septmber 3, 2005 | Staff

Posted on 09/03/2005 9:04:58 AM PDT by NavySEAL F-16

(CNN) -- New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin calls Lt. Gen. Russel Honore a "John Wayne dude" who can "get some stuff done."

"He came off the doggone chopper, and he started cussing and people started moving," Nagin said in an interview Thursday night with a local radio station. (See the Nagin video where he demands feds 'get off their asses' -- 12:09 )

The three-star general directed the deployment of an estimated 1,000 National Guard troops from a New Orleans street corner Friday, making it clear that it was a humanitarian relief operation. (Watch the convoy slog through floodwaters -- 3:33)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: honore; humanitarianrelief; katrina; nationalguard; neworleans
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To: FReethesheeples
He's a whiny, incompetent, "entitlement queen," wimp & girly man.

All of the above are true. And the sad thing, he'll probably be reelected.

21 posted on 09/03/2005 9:50:33 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Uncle Vlad

Reelected to what?

His "city" is gone.


22 posted on 09/03/2005 9:57:22 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

By the way, it looks like a FReeper has contributed to the Mayor's biography on the Wikipedia Web site. Read the last paragraph under "Hurricane Katrina". The [1] at the end of the paragraph links to a photo of all those flooded school buses!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Nagin


23 posted on 09/03/2005 9:57:32 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

That deserves it's own thread. LOL


24 posted on 09/03/2005 9:59:36 AM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: zip

ping


26 posted on 09/03/2005 10:07:16 AM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: doug from upland; An.American.Expatriate

ping

See post #23.


27 posted on 09/03/2005 10:11:28 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: drlevy88

And he would have used the one bullet in his shirt pocket that Andy allowed him.


28 posted on 09/03/2005 10:16:46 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
I assure you that most American solders do not want the order to shoot US citizens. Current Rules of Engagement even forbid shooting looters. HOWEVER, if threatened or fired upon they will kill you on the spot........

I agree, and in any hostile area, which New Orleans is at the moment, a soldier patrolling must always be at the ready to respond instantly. Carrying weapons in any other way is not responsible.

29 posted on 09/03/2005 10:22:40 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: msnimje
And Ray Nagin is a "Barney Fife Dude"

That's an insult to Barney Fife. Barney wasn't nearly as incompetent as Nagin is.
30 posted on 09/03/2005 10:24:46 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Republican Red; kittymyrib; All
I like this guy. He oozes strength and leadership. The pointing weapons down is more a PR move than a PC move.

I concur. The General was using good psychology.

There was a similar incident in 2003 in the early days of the Iraqi invasion. US troops were conducting a sweep through some town when a rumor was started that they planned to attack the local mosque. A huge menacing crowd of townspeople surrounded the American troops and things appeared as if they were about to get violent.

The officer in charge evaluated the situation and gave the order to his unit to "take a knee", which meant to drop to one knee and lower their weapons so they were pointed at the ground instead of the crowd. It seemed like suicidal order.

The angry crowd, however, stopped in amazement at the sight of a military force they knew could probably kill them all, instead moving snappily and with precision into a non-threatening position which in their culture denoted respect. No other military they had ever seen or imagined, especially Saddam's, would have made such a gesture.

The angry Iraqi crowd immediately fell silent, and then began to disperse. A few even waved at the soldiers. The pressure had been released, safely, and the troops went on to complete their mission.

That's what this General in New Orleans was doing. To people in abject misery who have lost everything else, he at least gave them back a little dignity and respect, and they responded accordingly. It's called leadership.

31 posted on 09/03/2005 10:32:53 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: NavySEAL F-16; All

some DUers were claiming Nagin contributed 1000 dollars to Bush in the last election....is this true?


32 posted on 09/03/2005 10:33:40 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Katya

"some DUers were claiming Nagin contributed 1000 dollars to Bush in the last election....is this true?"

Yep, but in '99, not '04: (and more to Dems)

http://www.newsmeat.com/washington_political_donations/Ray_Nagin.php


33 posted on 09/03/2005 10:39:03 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: tarheelswamprat
yeah it was in An-Najaf with the 101st..I was there...we formed a protective square and everyone took a knee, but of course we also had to Abrams tanks with us, so it was no problem..hehehe
34 posted on 09/03/2005 10:45:03 AM PDT by yankeegohome (smile, because it makes everyone uncomfortable)
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To: yankeegohome

read "to" as "two" sorry..long night


35 posted on 09/03/2005 10:46:06 AM PDT by yankeegohome (smile, because it makes everyone uncomfortable)
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To: Republican Red

I REALLY wish they had offered Jesse the job of getting help in there and getting the folks evacuated. He would certainly have to put up or shut up!


36 posted on 09/03/2005 10:48:27 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (I'm an island awash in a sea of stupidity)
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To: tarheelswamprat

Thanks for that story.


37 posted on 09/03/2005 10:52:04 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (I'm an island awash in a sea of stupidity)
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To: yankeegohome
yeah it was in An-Najaf with the 101st..I was there...we formed a protective square and everyone took a knee, but of course we also had two Abrams tanks with us, so it was no problem..hehehe

That was the whole point. You didn't have to make that gesture of respect. You knew it, and the Iraqis knew it. You did it from a position of strength, and it immediately drove home to them the point that you were indeed liberators, not conquerors. The great majority of Iraqis still know this, despite what our lying media says.

General Honore knows that if the folks in New Orleans don't take the hint he has the resources to immediately go into full suppression mode, but he understands there's no need to rub their noses in it.

Thanks for the reminder about An-Najaf, and most of all, thanks for your service to your country.

38 posted on 09/03/2005 11:07:01 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: goushi

I am amazed at how you sugarcoated your analysis of the worthless NO mayor. The guy looks like a gang member to me.;)


39 posted on 09/03/2005 11:31:39 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668)
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To: kittymyrib

War Zone? This isn't Iraq, this is New Orleans, Louisiana. This is NOT A WAR ZONE.


40 posted on 09/03/2005 11:33:07 AM PDT by KillBill
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