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New Orleans is now a ghost city
Daily Telegraph (Australia) ^ | 09-03-05 | Staff

Posted on 09/02/2005 11:42:20 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: The Red Zone
the buses could have taken at least one load of people out,

When it was suggested to Mayor Nagin that he use the school buses to evacuate to Houston the people stuck in the SuperDome, he said, "Absolutely not! They don't have bathrooms! You have to send Greyhounds."

An 18 year old kid managed to get a school bus of refugees to Houston, but the Mayor couldn't figure out how to.

81 posted on 09/03/2005 4:23:00 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: IronMan04
I-10 was packed from Saturday at noon until Monday Morning taking up to 12 hours to get to Baton Rouge. How would these buses helped?

Close the highway to all incoming traffic and put the buses in the incoming lanes.

82 posted on 09/03/2005 4:27:02 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: smoothsailing

Mark my words. Fourteen months from now the Democrats are going to demand that a way be found for all those people who have been scattered to the wind be allowed to vote in Louisiana elections regardless of their current location.


83 posted on 09/03/2005 4:33:19 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: R. Scott
The total affected areas were a small area in New York City, Washington and a field in Pennsylvania, not 90,000 square miles. New York still had functioning power, communications and a viable police force.

Exactly.

To compare this to the 9/11 attacks is ludicrous.

However, if Giuliani had been in charge of New Orleans, he'd have carried everyone out on his back if need be before the hurricane hit. Or at least thrown a bucket on the school buses and said "Hit the road!"

And he probably wouldn't have had so many welfare dependents and criminals in any city he ran.

84 posted on 09/03/2005 4:36:09 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: patriciaruth

All Lanes were outbound at 4:00 on Saturday.


85 posted on 09/03/2005 4:41:21 AM PDT by IronMan04
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To: smoothsailing

The enormity of the task of moving the city and suburbs is mind-boggling.

In the first place, individuals have a responsibility to look after themselves. In the second, this kid, pictured above, doesn't look like he's up to much of anything except drawing attention to himself.

86 posted on 09/03/2005 4:41:35 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (we don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
all those people who have been scattered to the wind be allowed to vote in Louisiana elections regardless of their current location.

If that means they can't vote in Texas, that idea is aces with me.

87 posted on 09/03/2005 4:42:01 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: IronMan04

Bush was pleading with Blanco on Friday to evacuate.


88 posted on 09/03/2005 4:43:24 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: patriciaruth
If that means they can't vote in Texas, that idea is aces with me.

All those democrat votes would get swallowed up in Texas but New Orleans is the Democrat stronghold in Louisiana. The two Democrat congressmen in Louisiana are from the 2nd and 3rd Districts, greater New Orleans. It's safe to say that Louisiana has a Democrat governor and a Democrat senator because of New Orleans. If New Orleans is still unihabitable next year what happens to those congressmen? You think that the Democrats are going to give those seats up without a fight?

89 posted on 09/03/2005 4:49:02 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

You think I don't know that cornered rats steadily losing power don't fight?

They've joined with the forces of darkness in order to cling to their remaining power and to try to claw their way back to the cozy old days of unchecked graft and Swiss bank accounts.


90 posted on 09/03/2005 4:53:43 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Every day it seems that another Democrat is caught with his hand in the public till.

In the old days it would have been ignored; now they're going to the slammer.

CFO of Ben and Jerry's was appropriating the charity money for his own toys and mansion.

Husband of congresswoman kiting checks and not paying in the payroll tax.

Soros is robbing Peter to pay Paul at Southwest. Soon as they have their golden parachutes ready, they'll park the birds and go 7, never stopping at 11.


91 posted on 09/03/2005 4:58:38 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Not to forget Air America robbing the afterschool children's fund to pay the bloated salaries of "The Talent" and repay the investment of the dedicated liberals who gave them the seed money.


92 posted on 09/03/2005 5:01:23 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: backhoe

Just think how many of these hurricanes could have been prevented if we only had enough foresight to reduce our CO2 emissions.

1. Galveston, Texas 1900
2. Florida 1928
3. Florida and Texas 1919
4. New England 1938
5. Florida Keys 1935
6. Hurricane Audrey 1957
7. Northeastern U.S. 1944
8. Louisiana 1909
9. Louisiana 1915
10. Galveston, Texas 1915


93 posted on 09/03/2005 5:04:37 AM PDT by greenhornet68
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To: Paleo Conservative

From what I saw on TV, the east bound lanes were NOT reversed.

I couldn't believe my eyes.

3 lanes of bumper to bumper cars getting out of town, and 6 empty lanes headed towards NO


94 posted on 09/03/2005 5:12:31 AM PDT by Collier
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How many days can the trees and shrubs stand to have their roots covered by water before the die?

My guess is that they won't be able to pump the water out before most of the plants die, but I'm not sure.


95 posted on 09/03/2005 5:13:55 AM PDT by Lessismore
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To: smoothsailing

While watching this catastrophe happen while on vacation with my wife out west, my better half came up with a solution. Rebuild NO but first pile millions of tons of rock and dirt on top of the place. Apparently they're going to have to raze everything anyway. Out in the mountains it is obvious that there are billions of tons of rock that can be used to cover old NO. That rock can be covered with the needed amount of dirt and whatever for underground pipes and communication wires. The level of all this would obviously have to be higher than the surrounding water level. That is the ONLY solution I like for rebuilding NO. Simply strengthening the levees will not do. Of course I'm no engineer and someone of this forum will point out that my wife's and my idea is impossible. But it sounds better than rebuilding in the same spot and still below sea level.


96 posted on 09/03/2005 5:14:13 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: patriciaruth
I am not going to Defend Gov. Blano Brain as she has many resources at her disposal. However, the City of New Orleans is poor and the governor should have known they could not contend with the problems.

However, the State did save thousands of lives by establishing Counterflow lanes on I-10 and 12.

97 posted on 09/03/2005 5:21:35 AM PDT by IronMan04
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To: smoothsailing
The US Geological Survey warned in vain about preserving the delta wetlands, describing them as a "natural buffer."

NO isn't the only city with this problem. In my town, we have a natural flood plain for the river. For years the Army Corps of Engineers maintained it as a wetland and didn't allow any development. Well, about 10 years ago something happened and now you'll find houses, stores, businesses on that flood plain.

I was working at a business on the periphery of the flood plain and was talking to a co-worker that had just moved into town and was looking for a place to live. I told him that this was a bad place to locate because of the "100 year floods" that seemed to happen every 10 years. Long story short, he bought a house next to the flood plain and it flooded that year. The water came right up to his doorstep and he had to boat home for about a week. The city's answer to flooding? Build more homes, stores and businesses.

There are probably hundreds, if not thousands of cities built partially or wholly on unsustainable land. Cities along the Mississippi, in hurricane alleys, along earthquake faults. In the past disaster was not so bad because you'd take out a few farms or cow towns, but now that farmland is being replaced with suburbia, the disasters are increased orders of magnitude.

98 posted on 09/03/2005 5:55:18 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: patriciaruth

Nagin is the antithesis of Giuliani.


99 posted on 09/03/2005 6:21:58 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
The Democrats will certainly raise a stink,that's what they're good at.

The absentee ballot covers the evacuees.Proving the right to vote will be the battle for the Dems.

100 posted on 09/03/2005 8:12:50 AM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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