New Orleans is now a ghost city

Daily Telegraph (Australia) ^ | 09-03-05 | Staff

[rawcatslyentist]

>"The controvery over Lake Nagin is just beginning and it will be a scandal for years to come. "

Lake Nagin.... gotta ring to it... a little too short for La. though.... How about Lake Blanco Nagin???

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[IronMan04]

Most people do not wait for a "Mandatory" Evacuation order and I-10 was packed starting Saturday afternoon.

[Paleo Conservative]

The city although wounded still stands and it cannot be moved. Do you want to place to 60 story Hilton Hotel on a Barge and move it up river. What about all the houses that are still standing?

Maybe a very high levee could be put around the French quarter and some of the hotels, but the bowl should be totally abandoned and let to return to is natural state.

[Paleo Conservative]

Most people do not wait for a "Mandatory" Evacuation order and I-10 was packed starting Saturday afternoon.

Did they have the east bound lanes reversed? Did that help?

[IronMan04]

The heart on New Orleans in not the French Quarter it is the Garden District, Uptown and Mid City.

[skimask]

I have seen situations where a stream maybe 3 feet wide and a couple of feet deep that developers tried to divert become engineering disasters of unthinkable proportion. I'm just saying what nature took millions of years to design is perfect. Let it be. Manage it but don't try to take it and make it ours.

[IronMan04]

Somehow I do not think any one who was smart enough to evacuate would be Dumb enough to Evacuate on I-10 East to Gulf Coast of Mississippi.

[IronMan04]

The should have Blowed that Levee up on the West Bank.

[js1138]

But the mandatory evacuation order didn't happen till Sunday. If the school busses had been used to evacuate people who didn't have cars starting on Saturday, most of the suffering could have been avoided.

I've been thinking about this all week. A rational person looking at the weather maps on Friday afternoon would have known that something was coming. At this poing most people should be following the weather continuously and getting ready for whatever needed to be done.

It's pretty obvious that the city's real plan was to do nothing and hope it would go away. Apparently the ACLU had threatened to sue the city if they ordered an evacuation and did not provide transportation and shelter for poor people. So the city decided not to order an evacuation.

[The Red Zone]

Apparently the ACLU had threatened to sue the city if they ordered an evacuation and did not provide transportation and shelter for poor people.

If so... if this isn't speculation or a joke... I can't think of a more deserving group to get socked into next week.

[IronMan04]

Most people watched the storm of Friday. It was on all TV stations as well as on the radio. At lunch in the Irish Channel people in the bar were talking about it. the real strengthening of the storm came Saturday morning and that is when the city went into action.

There were long gas lines by 10:00 a.m.

[IronMan04]

Apparently the ACLU had threatened to sue the city if they ordered an evacuation and did not provide transportation and shelter for poor people. So the city decided not to order an evacuation. That's BS

[fatima]

So good.

[IronMan04]

Apparently the ACLU had threatened to sue the city if they ordered an evacuation and did not provide transportation and shelter for poor people.

That's BS

[IronMan04]

So as a Conservative you Support a Government Official Forcing Citizens out of their homes at the point of a gun?

[flaglady47]

I have seen situations where a stream maybe 3 feet wide and a couple of feet deep that developers tried to divert become engineering disasters of unthinkable proportion. I'm just saying what nature took millions of years to design is perfect. Let it be. Manage it but don't try to take it and make it ours.

That's a pile of baloney. Here in Chicago, the coarse of the Chicago River was reversed, and has stayed that way for years. It indeed can be successfully done, and has been in a variety of places (one is in Russia). You're selling human ingenuity short.

[listenhillary]

Didn't the water come from the lake and not the Missisippi?
The levee on the west bank would be the Mississippi river.

[flaglady47]

coarse = course (it's late).

[jazzlite]

"My speciality/forte/field of expertise is underground utility construction and engineering. You can't divert the natural flow of water. Sooner or later it will come back to haunt you. I don't know how many years ago the levees in New Orleans were built on one of the largest rivers (natural flow of water) in the world, the Mississippi. The levees were put there to divert the Mississippi. She was going to claim back her territory sooner or later and Katrina allowed her the opportunity. They can build the most modern, sophisticated, state-of-the-art, or whatever they want to call it, levee system and it too, sooner or later, will fail. Cut your losses, give back to the Mississippi the land she wants, and will have, and start from that point. It's cliche' but "You can't fool Mother Nature", she will only tolerate it for so long."

This can be translated into so many of today's dilemmas and issues. Your statement is extremely wise and I wish our nation would pay attention.

[muir_redwoods]

Rebuild NO if you want just don't do it on my dime.