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LOUISIANA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD - what did Gov. Blanco do and not do?
globalsecurity.org ^ | 2005

Posted on 09/02/2005 11:05:34 PM PDT by doug from upland

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To: doug from upland
Read up on the Posse Comitatus Act and specifically the Insurrection Act. The Governor (bless her heart) directs the National Guard. But she or the LA legislature can request federal troops. So far she and they haven't.
41 posted on 09/02/2005 11:35:58 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: hoboken109

You forgot the Mayor of NO.


42 posted on 09/02/2005 11:36:38 PM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: tina07

disregard, I was talking about the governor, hair and makeup, perfect.


43 posted on 09/02/2005 11:37:11 PM PDT by tina07 (In Memory of my Father - WWII Army Air Force Veteran)
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To: doug from upland

"Robert Modean Says:
September 2nd, 2005 at 12:24 pm
Sorry Joel & ROE, but you guys are WAAAYYY off base in criticizing FEMA. Disaster preparedness is the responsibility of State and Local authorities – in this case LEMA (The Louisiana Emergency Management Agency). There is a state-wide director for disaster relief in every state – that person is called the Governor. There is a local director for disaster relief in every municipality – that person is called the Mayor.

FEMA is a coordinating body that assists State and Local authorities in getting the resources they need. Because they are the “go to” people most folks are under the impression that they are in charge, and in fact if the State and Local authorities abdicate control over a disaster area they will take over. Typically after the initial response to a disaster the local guys do just that, leave FEMA in control. That’s because they have the experience and personnel to manage disasters of this scale.

Disclosure: I’m a volunteer coordinator for MEMA (The Missouri Emergency Management Agency), I’ve been through three major floods and a few big storms that generated enough tornado damage to get the affected counties disaster relief – believe me when I tell you what we are seeing from FEMA now is lightyears ahead of what I’ve seen from them in the past. Typically it took two to three days just to get the disaster declaration, then another two to three to get FEMA deployed – of course by then the local guys had been on the ground working around the clock for five or six days and we were more than happy to dump everything in FEMA’s lap. That’s the way the system is designed. Bush saw that and tried to skip a few steps to speed things up, he pre-declared the areas disaster areas. So what we are seeing in NO is the result of a convergence of factors:

First, the storm damage was bad, but the flooding has made relief efforts ten times harder than anything they could have imagined. Second, Mayor Nagin’s performance has been pathetic. This is the worst case of poor planning and criminal incompetence I’ve ever seen.

Like I said, Bush declared the gulf coast area a Federal Disaster area on Saturday – two days before Katrina hit. That freed up FEMA resources for local and state coordinators and allowed for the pre-positioning of supplies so they could be rapidly deployed to the affected areas. Mayor Nagin waited until the last minute to call for an evacuation of the city, but the poorest people could not evacuate – why weren’t school busses used to get them out of town?

Mayor Nagin made the last minute decision to declare the Superdome and COnvention centers as refuge relocation points – why weren’t they stocked with water, food, bedding, generators, and fuel? Why weren’t hospitals offered additional resources by the Mayors office?

Mayor Nagin made the decision to allow looting and told the police to focus on Search and Rescue – but looting hinders S&R efforts (as we’ve seen) and no one I know could believe that decision – it’s emergency management 101, preserving order preserves life. There’s plenty of blame to go around – Blanco deserves her share too – but the real culprit in the aftermath here is Nagin."


44 posted on 09/02/2005 11:37:19 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

Thanks for that info. Governor Blanco had the power and responsibility to deliver food and water. If that is the case and the troops were under her control, why is the President at fault for failure to deliver water for three or four days? Why is the President at fault for the transportation failures?


45 posted on 09/02/2005 11:38:09 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: doug from upland
Hey Doug. Called Louisiana last night. Blanco only fully committed NG last night (Thursday).

Waiting for the dime......our dime.

46 posted on 09/02/2005 11:38:10 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: RobbyS

Furthermore, the federal government may not intervene until asked by the governor.
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Exactly the president of the US may not invade Louisiana or any other state. Now I guess Bush could have Federalized the LA National Guard like Ike did with the AR national guard for desegregating Little Rock Central, but he had to give the LA authorities a day or so to act.

Had he federalized them the first day he would have been rightly accused of grandstanding. And the Louisiana and New Orleans officials know the territory. They know or should know where to allocate the troops and what neighborhood is what. Some out of state FEMA manager does not know this.


47 posted on 09/02/2005 11:40:16 PM PDT by JLS
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To: doug from upland
I can explain it,it's really very simple..to call in the guard makes it look like your not "in control" (martial law)
although with a natural disaster such as this... there's really no excuse. Basically she couldn't get her knickers untwisted to make a decision.

Now and only NOW things are moving because of George W.Bush
..remember he said when he landed today..."if things aren't right,were gonna make things right"
Have a black mayor who couldn't find his way out of a cab, make serious decisions...first off waiting till the last minute to warn people to evacuate..remember even the nervous,stage frighten governor said the President called and URGE both her and the mayor to EVACUATE...thats been recorded as happening..watch the time line...the mayor told people to go to the now famous dome of ill repute and because he couldn't handle the immense pressure of a major
disaster...now he shouts out about the feds blowing it..(in other words don't look at my total incompetence) Lets find a scapegoat...it's the guard..where are they?...no can't blame them, they've shown how responsive and how caring they are....no it's the white governor and bush..lets blame them... the facts fall with the governor and him...but lets make it a racial thing..then the MSM will pick up on it and have print and sound bytes for weeks....
Meanwhile the deer eyed governor who's responsible for calling in the troops....sits and babbles about what ever she's told to say


Doogle
48 posted on 09/02/2005 11:40:24 PM PDT by Doogle (8th AF...4077thTFW....408MMS....Ubon Thailand "69"..Night Line Delivery ..AMMO)
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To: doug from upland

bttt


49 posted on 09/02/2005 11:40:39 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: doug from upland

i think Blanko was politically chicken (as a white person) to bring the NG and their guns into her city of black persons. Fearing she'd be blamed for bullying them. Not expecting of course that the situation would go from bad ("oh let them steal food") to worse (OMG they've got the police under seige). A purely selfish political decision imo. Not caring at all for "her people".


50 posted on 09/02/2005 11:40:42 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: ARCADIA

Blanco zippo. :^)


51 posted on 09/02/2005 11:41:10 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Chgogal
From a spelling cop- "moral" SB "morale". Two different words.
52 posted on 09/02/2005 11:41:29 PM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: Rokke

Very helpful. Thanks.


53 posted on 09/02/2005 11:41:29 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: Doogle

yup, Charlie Rangel is at it with the racist crap, he needs a boot big time


54 posted on 09/02/2005 11:42:04 PM PDT by tina07 (In Memory of my Father - WWII Army Air Force Veteran)
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To: doug from upland
not sure of your answer. but keep in mind, when it rains there it floods without the levee breaks. the pumps they use in certain areas are outdated and inadequate. debris (trees, foreign objects) blocking the culverts add to the flooding and overwhelm the pumps causing them to lose pressure.

It has been reported that with the heavy rain pouring in the City the pumps begun to fail in certain area prior to the levees being breached.
55 posted on 09/02/2005 11:43:36 PM PDT by rineaux (hardcore)
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To: doug from upland

Thud posted that on the latest Katrina thread.


56 posted on 09/02/2005 11:43:48 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

What did this Blanco do before becoming Governor, Walmart greeter?


57 posted on 09/02/2005 11:45:09 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: BIGLOOK
So she waited until Thursday?

It is starting to become a little more clear. I think. Blanco had the power and duty to maintain order and deliver water with the LNG she commanded. And yet, the MSM is blaming federal authorities in general and the President in particular.

When did the levee break and it become impossible to get vehicles in there? Could the vehicles have delivered supplies on Tuesday?

58 posted on 09/02/2005 11:46:40 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: doug from upland
"Saturday's emergency declaration authorizes federal officials to coordinate all disaster relief efforts and provide appropriate assistance in several Louisiana parishes ..."

This is code for "pay for all relief efforts" !

It also says "provide assistance" not take over all command and control !

I used to teach command and control and incident command and the top does "not" direct local forces. During any disaster each area is sectored out and there is one person in charge in each sector not the top or in this case the Feds !

A perfect case of this was on 9/11 when the Gov't had NY, PA and DC as sectors and the Feds provided support to each of them. The civilian world has a chain of command just like the military does !

59 posted on 09/02/2005 11:48:42 PM PDT by america-rules
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To: JLS

FEMA ought to have had in hand a plan prepared by local officials. Apparently there were none.

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/0905/01edwitt.html


60 posted on 09/02/2005 11:48:44 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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