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Katrina Live Thread, Part XIV
Various ^ | 2 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/02/2005 3:03:06 PM PDT by NautiNurse

President Bush continues to assess the catastrophic damage by air and on the ground in Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana. Bush spent the day meeting with search and rescue personnel, relief commanders, and displaced residents in Mobile, Biloxi, and the New Orleans area. U.S. Congress passed a $10.5 billion relief package for the hurricane ravaged areas. First Lady Laura Bush issued a press statement from an evacuation shelter in Lafayette, Louisiana.

Patient and staff evacuations continue from numerous New Orleans Hospitals. Thousands of patients are being airlifted to a field hospital at Louis Armstrong New Orleans Airport for triage, staging, and transport to hospitals throughout the United States.

The U.S. Coast Guard and civilian volunteers continue to evacuate thousands of survivors from their flooded homes in New Orleans. The Army Corps of Engineers continues work to repair the damaged levees.

The nation's airlines today began an operation intended to fly up to 25,000 refugees out of New Orleans. The airlines are volunteering their aircraft and crews for the program. Long convoys loaded with relief supplies arrived throughout the day into New Orleans, while convoys of buses are moving survivors out of the city.

Several large fires are burning in the city and greater New Orleans area. Reports indicate snipers are holding down firefighters. Reports of shots fired with LEO down in the St. Bernard Parish area. Rescue operations are underway. A bus carrying NOLA evauees rolled over in Opelousa, LA.

Links to various news, local and state government websites:

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends
2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.
NOLA.com
Inside Houma Today includes shelter and volunteer updates
WLBT.com Jackson MS
WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.
Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports
Gulfport News via Topix.net
WAFB Baton Rouge
Mobile Register via al.com
Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger
Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser
Pensacola News Journal
St Bernard Local Government
Alabama Homeland Security Volunteers can sign up online
Alabama DOT
Alabama.gov
Louisiana Homeland Security
Louisiana State Police road closure info
State of Mississippi Website has traffic alerts, emergency contact numbers

Streaming Video:

New Orleans Emergency Operations Center - is now open:
504-463-1000
504-463-1001
504-463-1002

WWL-TV New Orleans (via WFAA Dallas) - WWL-TV is operating from studios at Louisiana Public Broadcasting. CBS has a relay during the morning and afternoon. When available, use the CBS relay first as they have greater streaming capacity. Yahoo has also provided a relay.

WDSU-TV New Orleans - The news staff has started to return to temporary news studios near New Orleans. However, expect evening coverage from Hearst-Argyle sister stations WAPT Jackson and WESH Orlando when the New Orleans staff needs to take a break.

WGNO-TV New Orleans - New Orleans' ABC affiliate has returned to the air with WBRZ-TV and launched video streaming with continuous Katrina coverage.

WPMI-TV Mobile, AL - WPMI is webcasting from 5:30am - 10:30pm CDT. When off air, you can view pre-recorded reports on demand. This feed is often unreliable.

WKRG-TV Mobile, AL - This station is providing good coverage of the situation to the east in Mississippi and Alabama. However, the station is now signing off at around 10:30pm CDT like WWL and WPMI.

WJTV-TV Jackson, MS - The CBS affiliate in Jackson is providing live coverage for both the Jackson area and south Mississippi (knowing a lot of media in that area is off the air).

United Radio From New Orleans: WWL-AM, WNOE-FM, "KISS-FM," WRNO-FM, WYLD-FM, and WJBO-AM who have joined forces as United Radio From New Orleans, and they are streaming.

Related FR Threads:

FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread FReeper Check In thread
Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?
Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here
Looting Begins In New Orleans
Hurricane Katrina HOUSING Thread
Martial Law Declared in New Orleans


Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.

www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow, and lines are busy
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.
National Black Home Educators Resource Association http://www.nbhera.org/ Southern Baptist: NAMB - http://www.namb.net/
Samaritan's Purse - http://www.samaritanspurse.org/

Previous Threads:
Katrina Live Thread, Part XIII
Katrina Live Thread, Party XII
Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aftermath; hurricane; katrina; neworleans
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To: AmericanVictory
Hattiesburg Newspaper Website

has a fairly active web board where people are being located. Try that.

3,081 posted on 09/03/2005 6:19:45 AM PDT by WoodstockCat (Gitmo? Let them eat Pork!)
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To: LadyBuzz

What is your source for this? We need to get this info out!


3,082 posted on 09/03/2005 6:20:17 AM PDT by Tensgrrl
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To: DollyCali

I grew up in Bay Village - you guys really have a bunch of doozies in office.


3,083 posted on 09/03/2005 6:20:55 AM PDT by LadyBuzz
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To: plushaye

I see some good news on the hospital front this morning, according to AP.

'Two of New Orleans' most troubled hospitals were evacuated late Friday after desperate doctors spent days making tough choices about which patients got dwindling supplies of food, water and medicines.
Rescuers finally made it into Charity and University hospitals and evacuated all remaining patients and staff.
"The last information I have is that all of the buildings are empty," said Don Smithburg, head of the Louisiana State University hospital system.'


3,084 posted on 09/03/2005 6:21:03 AM PDT by plushaye (President Bush: W-2-4-4!! God Bless him and his administration.)
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To: All

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/special_packages/hurricane_katrina/12553412.htm

Posted on Sat, Sep. 03, 2005

Air Force to send 300 airmen to Gulf Coast
JIM KRANE
Associated Press

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates - The U.S. Air Force will send 300 airmen home from Iraq and Afghanistan to help their families cope with emergencies on a hurricane-devastated airbase in Biloxi, Miss., a spokesman said Saturday.

The airmen, all based at Keesler Air Force Base, would begin flying home over the next two weeks, said Air Force Capt. David Small, spokesman for U.S. Central Command Air Forces in Qatar.

CUT CUT

Keesler, just off the beach in the Gulf Coast city of Biloxi, suffered a direct hit from Hurricane Katrina. The storm wiped out much of its housing and other infrastructure. Small said most personnel and families on the base had been moved to temporary shelters. "Everything was under water," he said.

** Small said he had heard no reports of storm-related deaths on the base. Keesler houses both active duty airmen and Air Force Reservists.
**

CUT CUT


3,085 posted on 09/03/2005 6:21:08 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: BlackRain

Terrible


3,086 posted on 09/03/2005 6:21:08 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your s God is!)
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To: WoodstockCat

"why can't they bring in some of the things by amphibious landing from the Navy?"

I believe that the Navy is bringing a couple of Amphib ships down from Norfolk -- if I count days correctly, they should be on-scene tomorrow or the next day.

Just my vague recollection from a solid week of overlapping stories, FWIW


3,087 posted on 09/03/2005 6:21:19 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (MSM reporters -- rope is cheap and there are a LOT of trees...)
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To: gpapa
New Orleans has about 4.5 million people

The city has 1.4 million in the Greater New Orleans Area. Many of those got out. Many could not. Best estimates are that anywhere from 100,000 to 200,000 people were left in the city at the time of the storm.

3,088 posted on 09/03/2005 6:21:48 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: NautiNurse

45 Years on the Federal Plantation - the Long Term Effects of Direct Deposit


As I watched the remorseful scenes unfold in and around the Super Dome, my mind wandered to the civilian victims of WWII. Countless millions were displaced by the horrors of colliding armies.

Probably because I was born shortly after WWII started, I've always had a keen interest in the war from an historical aspect. I've watched quite a number videos and movies concerning almost every major campaign.

Invariably, the film maker includes scenes of displaced civilians and the suffering they endured. One favorite scene included in probably half of the movies I've seen, shows a long line of civilians trudging single file down a narrow road in the country. Up above, Nazi pilots see them and swoop down to strafe the fleeing civilians, spraying the column with machine gun bullets.

Once the attackers have satisfied their thirst for blood, the civilians climb out of the protective ditches on either side of the road. They brush themselves off, collect their meager belongings, and once again begin their march to safety, which brings me to my point.

Do the people at the Super Dome lack the basic instincts for survival?

Most say they have lost everything. What is preventing them from picking up their lawn chairs and walking out of New Orleans?

Surely, there is a way out. Otherwise, how did the myriad of reporters get there with all of the heavy equipment required to beam the tragic scenes to us?

Why not use highway 610 and walk right out of New Orleans?

From numerous personal visits, I know that it's not a great distance to Kenner. My maps indicate it's somewhere around 10 miles.

What's at Kenner? Well for one thing, the New Orleans airport is at Kenner. Certainly the local airport has to be the logical place to go when you're in need of emergency supplies.

Why are these people stuck at the Super Dome?

I repeat, do they lack the ability to react to their basic survival instincts?

My conclusion is that they do. They have lost the ability to think for themselves and respond to their basic instincts.

Instead, they remain in an untenable situation and make desperate pleas to television audiences throughout the world.

How could this be?

Here's what I think. These people have been on the "Federal Plantation" for generations. They subsist on their monthly "gubment check." They are the product of 40 plus years of depending upon the government for their very existence. So, when they are put in a situation where the government can't tell them what to do, they are lost. Worse than that, they have lost the ability to think for themselves. They have lost the ability to react to their basic survival instincts. They cannot get out of the ditch and continue their march to safety after Katrina has strafed them.

Furthermore, they are not a community. They are a mass of anonymous humans each fighting for a chance to suckle at the government breasts. How else can you explain six murders and 12 rapes in the Super Dome while Katrina was roaring? The perpetrators had to view their victims as strangers, members of another tribe, to justify their assaults.

A really horrifying thought is that this lack of initiative, the inability to think and take action, permeates the political infrastructure of Louisiana. I cannot think of a more inept pair of "leaders" than New Orleans Mayor Nagin and Louisiana Governor Blanco.

Mayor Nagin in a public display of incompetence, admitted on CNN cameras that he "doesn't know whose problem this is" when questioned about disaster relief response. I can tell you Mayor Nagin, it's your problem. However, your many years of taking orders from the political machinery that runs the State of Louisiana has left you without the ability to think for yourself and make the necessary preparations for eventual disasters.

Mayor Nagin you were warned repeatedly that there was a 20 foot tidal surge on the way. You knew that the levies most likely would not hold up against the surge. What plans did you make to protect your constituents in the event flooding took place? Apparently, you had none.

And Governor Blanco, you are in control of the National Guard. Contrary to the main stream media's insinuations that President Bush should have called up the National Guard, you are the one who could have staged Louisiana Guard units in Baton Rouge, or Alexandria, prior to the storm. You are the Commander in Chief of the Louisiana National Guard. You are the one responsible for the proper use of the National Guard during times of disaster.

Having spent six years in the Texas Army National Guard, I'm surprised that any Guard units are in New Orleans. It generally takes at least 48 hours just to mobilize a unit; that is get everyone to show up at the Armory. It takes another 48 hours to load the trucks with equipment and various gear. Then you have the march, the actual movement of the unit to the theatre of operations.

Meanwhile, refugees are filling up sports arenas, the convention center, etc throughout the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. The constant barrage of new reports leads us to believe that these people will be productive members of our community. They just need a little help getting started again, after their misfortune.

Of course, this is a lie. By and large, these people will simply move into one of the government projects when they are forced to leave their temporary arrangements. They won't add to the economy, because they don't work. They will simply make the crowded projects even more crowded and increase the crime rate.

After all, you don't even have to go to the mail box to get your "gubment check." They can direct deposit it right into your account.

3,089 posted on 09/03/2005 6:21:53 AM PDT by Texas Jack
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To: cajungirl

Saw you pop up on another thread this morning. How are you today?


3,090 posted on 09/03/2005 6:22:03 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: Patriot from Philly
You can no longer trust the media. They are a disgrace.

The Watch Dogs were barking up the wrong tree. <- Good Read.

3,091 posted on 09/03/2005 6:22:11 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Ramius
People chose not to leave, even when they had free travel. so much for that part of your plan.

Oh please. There were a lot of people with no ability to leave prior to the hurricane.

Wiped out. Next part of your plan, please?

Emergency services are capable of setting up communications nets almost immediatly. It's what the guard is doing now.

They were there, and hundreds of thousands of people have been eating and drinking *since day one* because of them.

And yet many places are just now getting supplies. Tens of thousands of people at the convention center had no food or water until yesterday.

That's just simply a lie. 250 shelter sites have been up and running even *during* the hurricane and since... and are taking pretty good care of anybody that isn't shooting at them.

You mean like in the Superdome, which is now full of human waste, and in which there have been numerous stories of attacks and rapes?

I'm not sure you are watching the same news stories the rest of us are.

3,092 posted on 09/03/2005 6:22:52 AM PDT by va4me
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To: Tensgrrl

Last night on Larry King - look for a transcript - I will too - the spokeswoman for Red Cross told Larry that NO did not want the Red Cross in because they were afraid people would not evacuate if the Red Cros was there. It's a good thing I had already had a stiff drink when I heard it.


3,093 posted on 09/03/2005 6:23:58 AM PDT by LadyBuzz
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To: va4me

Those overpasses and other spots are going to look like Jonestown X 1000 if this takes another couple of days.


3,094 posted on 09/03/2005 6:25:39 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: WoodstockCat

'morning.

The correct link is:

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=NEWS0502


3,095 posted on 09/03/2005 6:26:17 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Cboldt

wow - excellent viewpoint


3,096 posted on 09/03/2005 6:26:32 AM PDT by tentmaker
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To: Roxan
I thought I read in a FR hurricane thread that President Bush could not intervene before the local and state goverment, legally.
Is this fact?

Yes. Invoking National Guard is first a governor's prerogative. The governor did so on Thursday, I believe the records will show.

3,097 posted on 09/03/2005 6:28:04 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Spktyr

Good fit for a small hand? Easy tigger pull?


3,098 posted on 09/03/2005 6:28:33 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: bwteim

AMEN


3,099 posted on 09/03/2005 6:31:14 AM PDT by cyborg ("I want to know how God created this world. I want to know His thoughts..." A.Einstein)
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To: GOP_Proud
Julian came back with, "but it has to be discussed...". At that point Juliet literally raised her hands to keep them separated and just began talking about the next segment. There definitely was some aggravation there. Everytime it comes up you can tell that Julian is dying to jump onto a race soap box.

I saw it. Julian appears racist, to me.

Not based on that exchange, this morning, I have lots of respect for Doocy.

I'd kick Geraldo and Shep Smith to the curb.

3,100 posted on 09/03/2005 6:31:46 AM PDT by Cboldt
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