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Katrina Live Thread, Part XIV
Various ^ | 2 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/02/2005 3:03:06 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: BurbankKarl

Same clow...ummm.. officer.


2,761 posted on 09/02/2005 11:28:50 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: Heatseeker

Do you know anything about NO or have you visited? Why don't you ask Tiger Smack about the city?


2,762 posted on 09/02/2005 11:29:09 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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To: supercat

I was really thinking more in the lines of a long flat metal beam structure formed with large crossbeams and smaller crossbeams that could stretch from one wall to the other and then place sand bags so that the current doesn't just wash the bags away. Oh well I'm not there just an idea.


2,763 posted on 09/02/2005 11:29:43 PM PDT by md2576
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To: bonfire

Makes sense...
Complete L&O breakdown. Critical Employees, records or gear...

That's NOT a FEMA priority, but could be devestating to a corporation


2,764 posted on 09/02/2005 11:29:46 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: REDWOOD99

LOL!


2,765 posted on 09/02/2005 11:29:57 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Rokke; oceanview; BurbankKarl; RobbyS; Cboldt; Canticle_of_Deborah; NautiNurse
A Missouri emergency management guy puts most of the blame on New Orleans Mayor Nagin. This is a post from Donald Sensing's blog:

http://www.donaldsensing.com/index.php/2005/09/02/mayor-nagins-kate-hale-moment/#comment-7688

"Robert Modean Says:
September 2nd, 2005 at 12:24 pm

Sorry Joel & ROE, but you guys are WAAAYYY off base in criticizing FEMA. Disaster preparedness is the responsibility of State and Local authorities – in this case LEMA (The Louisiana Emergency Management Agency). There is a state-wide director for disaster relief in every state – that person is called the Governor. There is a local director for disaster relief in every municipality – that person is called the Mayor.

FEMA is a coordinating body that assists State and Local authorities in getting the resources they need. Because they are the “go to” people most folks are under the impression that they are in charge, and in fact if the State and Local authorities abdicate control over a disaster area they will take over. Typically after the initial response to a disaster the local guys do just that, leave FEMA in control. That’s because they have the experience and personnel to manage disasters of this scale.

Disclosure: I’m a volunteer coordinator for MEMA (The Missouri Emergency Management Agency), I’ve been through three major floods and a few big storms that generated enough tornado damage to get the affected counties disaster relief – believe me when I tell you what we are seeing from FEMA now is lightyears ahead of what I’ve seen from them in the past. Typically it took two to three days just to get the disaster declaration, then another two to three to get FEMA deployed – of course by then the local guys had been on the ground working around the clock for five or six days and we were more than happy to dump everything in FEMA’s lap. That’s the way the system is designed. Bush saw that and tried to skip a few steps to speed things up, he pre-declared the areas disaster areas. So what we are seeing in NO is the result of a convergence of factors:

First, the storm damage was bad, but the flooding has made relief efforts ten times harder than anything they could have imagined. Second, Mayor Nagin’s performance has been pathetic. This is the worst case of poor planning and criminal incompetence I’ve ever seen.

Like I said, Bush declared the gulf coast area a Federal Disaster area on Saturday – two days before Katrina hit. That freed up FEMA resources for local and state coordinators and allowed for the pre-positioning of supplies so they could be rapidly deployed to the affected areas. Mayor Nagin waited until the last minute to call for an evacuation of the city, but the poorest people could not evacuate – why weren’t school busses used to get them out of town?

Mayor Nagin made the last minute decision to declare the Superdome and COnvention centers as refuge relocation points – why weren’t they stocked with water, food, bedding, generators, and fuel? Why weren’t hospitals offered additional resources by the Mayors office?

Mayor Nagin made the decision to allow looting and told the police to focus on Search and Rescue – but looting hinders S&R efforts (as we’ve seen) and no one I know could believe that decision – it’s emergency management 101, preserving order preserves life. There’s plenty of blame to go around – Blanco deserves her share too – but the real culprit in the aftermath here is Nagin."


2,766 posted on 09/02/2005 11:30:00 PM PDT by Thud
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To: bonfire

"Behind in your rent, go to the stadium"

Oh no...you really might be on to something.


There have already been reports of Houston homeless goint to astrodome and getting in!!


2,767 posted on 09/02/2005 11:30:21 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Born in a Rage

It would be a great relief from the "racial" talking points they are gushing out with today, don't you think? Or do you just like to make fun of people's posts?


2,768 posted on 09/02/2005 11:31:01 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: md2576

It's really impossible if you belong to the Democratic Party, apparently.


2,769 posted on 09/02/2005 11:31:46 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: John Jamieson

This will not end well but a lot of good hearted folks are doing God's work.


2,770 posted on 09/02/2005 11:31:49 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: wardaddy
yeah...i don't rememeber the 00 election threads running numbered like this do you?

I don't recall - "Day 1, Day 2" might have popped up at some point - but yeah, that was another series of long threads on a common event.

2,771 posted on 09/02/2005 11:31:49 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Thud

That is an outstanding post. I think it is worth its own thread. It does an excellent job of explaining FEMA's role.


2,772 posted on 09/02/2005 11:32:03 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: hoosiermama

I have it on good authority that Iowa is going to take in at least 5,000 folks. Me and the missus are gonna discuss taking in someone tomorrow.


2,773 posted on 09/02/2005 11:32:10 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Johnny Crab
SCANNER:

Medivac called to I-10 and Causeway(aka the cloverleaf). Female about to deliver a baby. What a place and way to start life.

2,774 posted on 09/02/2005 11:32:41 PM PDT by Johnny Crab (Always thankful.)
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To: BurbankKarl

yep that's the guy!


2,775 posted on 09/02/2005 11:32:48 PM PDT by Texas_Conservative2
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To: bonfire

I think it was NO, where the man told the cops that his wife had taken a taxi to NY for a little shopping and died in the WTC!? Think he went to jail, but not sure.


2,776 posted on 09/02/2005 11:33:40 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: hipaatwo
Food Network for me

That's a good show ... but it makes me hungry just watching

And since I'm a lousy cook ... I get depressed *L*

2,777 posted on 09/02/2005 11:33:48 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Texasforever

Our local electrical workers went to Mississippi....Thread just posted that elecrical power has been turn on in the Hattisburg area.....Go Hoosiers!

Saw a clip where some folks (in Miss) who came here from Vietnam with nothing 30 years ago, were starting to clean up their neighborhood.....Want to guess how long it will take them....Some of the streets are already clear.


2,778 posted on 09/02/2005 11:33:54 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Just be careful and try to get a background check. Good luck and bless you!


2,779 posted on 09/02/2005 11:33:57 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: BurbankKarl
IS THIS THE SAME OFFICER THAT WAS ON GERALDO RIVERA'S BROADCAST LATER IN THE DAY SAYING NO FOOD WAS DELIVERED!!!!

Looks like the same guy - same stars on the shoulders.

But tonight he didn't say no food or water had been delivered, and in fact, Geraldo panned to show food crates and asked a fellow in the crod if he had had any of the MRE's. The Chief's comment can fairly be taken as out of food, out of water (he said no food, no water).

2,780 posted on 09/02/2005 11:34:46 PM PDT by Cboldt
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