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"The Begining of Our Nightmare" -- Personal Account from New Orleans **It's worse than you think!**
e-mail | 9/2/2005 | Per Guenevere's e-mail

Posted on 09/02/2005 2:49:29 PM PDT by Guenevere

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To: combat_boots
When the hoods started shooting at rescue copters, the aid halted until the guard could show up. I think that the biggest problems in this mess are lack of pre-planning and lack of communication.
121 posted on 09/02/2005 9:18:10 PM PDT by my2cent (We're gonna need a bigger boat)
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To: IronJack

There comes a time when it's proper to discard the niceties and "git 'er done." If that means feeding your family, protecting your shelter, or fighting off bands of two-legged predators, then that's how it is.

I agree, and the pioneers who lived exactly as you describe developed our country with the raw courage and isolated self-determination you so aptly describe.


122 posted on 09/02/2005 9:31:10 PM PDT by hardworking
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To: Guenevere

There is a lesson in this for all freepers ,it's a lesson that is as old as the hills : Put not your faith in princes for they will surely betray & fail you. This is what was writ large this week in New Orleans.


123 posted on 09/02/2005 9:45:45 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: deport
It seems strange to me that someone from FL would chance a flight out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane within some 24 hours of landfall. Didn't they learn or hear a thing about Homestead FL and it's experience with Andrew? I would have thought they would have been gone much earlier, but then I wasn't in their shoes and making the decision.

I am not trying to stick up for these people, because I don't even know them.

That said ... here in Florida (where these folks are from), we are inundated (yes, inundated) with hurricane warnings from about May until November. The local newspeople are ALWAYS completely freaking out, assuring us that THIS one is REALLY the big one.

It just (almost) never works out that way. For goodness sakes, just last year, people on the west coast of Florida were advised to evacuate (RIGHT NOW!!!) and were told that there were plenty of hotel rooms in Orlando and Daytona. Well, not only was the west coast not even bothered by that hurricane - the sucker tore right through Orlando and Daytona! Had those people just stayed put, they would have been fine, but they went where the authorities TOLD THEM TO GO, and they got smacked. Hard.

I cannot cast too much blame on these people. They did the best that they could under the circumstances.
124 posted on 09/02/2005 9:49:43 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian (I hope I'm not some kind of psychopath. - Chloe O'Brien, "24")
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To: AmericaUnited

Stinking Rat Leadership!!!......My thoughts exactly!


125 posted on 09/02/2005 10:12:33 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: depenzz
What a tragic commentary! It is evident to all that there were no emergency plans in place that were effective. Even with the aid of Fed. govt. and the President ordering FEMA positioned Before the hurricane came, the blame lies on the local politicians.

In "The Big Easy" life ain't so easy anymore.

Too bad those elected always thought it was. It is evident that the mayor and governor had no clue how to proceed. Pitiful. The Tsunami tragedy was managed better. Within 2 days there were "tent cities" to house people out of the weather and hot sun. Water, food and supply drops started almost immediately and in the chaos there was organization.

I have yet to see one single tent set up on that highway where people are sitting, starving, sweltering and succumbing to death. The stench that people keep talking about coming from the city, is really coming from the stinking Mayor and Governor of the state. Putrid politicians!

126 posted on 09/02/2005 10:25:49 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: Guenevere
MSM had better be very careful how the report from now on. It will soon be obvious who is to BLAME for this tragedy.

There is no excuse why the Mayor did not organize transport out after he declared "Mandatory Evacuation".

CNN, ABC, etc....we know the truth so stop your pitiful reporting that protects the ridiculous excuse of a mayor and governor.

Look at this picture! There were hundreds of buses available for transport out! Thank you RasterMaster for pinging me.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475499/posts?page=1265#1265
127 posted on 09/02/2005 11:05:13 PM PDT by Chgogal (Congressmen who willfully...during war...damage moral...should be arrested, exiled or..." Lincoln)
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To: AmericaUnited
STINKING RAT LEADERSHIP!!!

Leadership? No. More like stinking piles of worm vomit. That's the Democrat's attempted simulation of leadership.

128 posted on 09/02/2005 11:31:33 PM PDT by semaj (qu)
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To: Guenevere

PING


129 posted on 09/03/2005 12:30:55 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: Guenevere; Kathy in Alaska; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; tomkow6; SouthernHawk; MoJo2001; HiJinx; ...

Canteen Ping!


130 posted on 09/03/2005 12:37:58 AM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: Racehorse

This is how things will proceed. The city will force everyone to leave shortly, and the leevy system will be fixed...with the water pumped out in 30 days (no less). By early Oct, significant numbers of residents will want to return immedately...although basements will still be filled of water, and utilities will not be turned back on in operation until the end of October (no earlier).

The mayor will start his tirades again...about this 60 day period that residents are forced to stay out of the city. Finally, the Corps and FEMA will be finished with their part, and around early November...people will pour into the area. The looting results and damage will hit them full force. For alot of them...there will be no homes left. And the tirade will go into over-drive by this point.

Some major businesses will study the impact of keeping corporate there in NO...and quietly move their exec's out to Baton Rouge or Dallas or Houston. The companies won't talk about it...but you will hear rumors by mid-November.

The bar zone....will find itself with few if any tourists in November, and several hotels will come to a point of closing because the cost of fixing facilities will be substantial and there will be doubt of tourists running back at full force for a year or two.

The oil business sector will continue on...they will fix all things and get their job done. Buddy, junior and guys will work their way back to real life.

The folks downtown...those who stayed at the SuperBowl and now are being pumped to Dallas and Houston...will demand and get $5k checks from the fed government...and spend it right there on booze and fun. When offered a free trip back to NO...they will turn it down. Dallas and Houston will then comprehend that they have to find permanent cheap housing for at least 10,000 NO residents each. These folks won't ever return.

The university in NO...down for this entire year. Forget about any classes.

The mayor...a slug...will disappear by the next election.

And finally the population of the town in 18 months....probably 50 percent less than in 2004. The Saints will likely stay...but forget about everything else. This town got its own situation...they earned their reward. This is not the typical town in America...they are special.


131 posted on 09/03/2005 12:59:05 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: small_l_libertarian

It's very true that many many hurricanes "headed straight for N.O." somehow conveniently take a "turn" at the last minute. I blame the media for this. They use the N.O. threat to keep viewers watching. And for that i understand why many residents didn't believe it. They've been cried wolf too many times.

Compounding that, the city was preparing for Southern Decadence next week which i believe is one of the city's biggest events of the year. So that too could be why some stayed. Didn't want to lose time on those preparations.


132 posted on 09/03/2005 1:07:56 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: AmericaUnited

What Leadership? If there had been any leaders there worthy of the name, they would have had things under control much sooner.


133 posted on 09/03/2005 1:19:10 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.)
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To: Guenevere
here's what I don't understand...I thought all communication was "down".....but here this lady uses some phone, probably her cell.....

the only thing I can think of why the Red Cross and others were not allowed in is because they expected another levee tofail and the city would be even more under water.......

otherwise, there is no explanation.....

134 posted on 09/03/2005 1:29:15 AM PDT by cherry
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To: TexKat

ping


135 posted on 09/03/2005 1:36:26 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: combat_boots
fema and/Guard troops were not needed to simply drive a bus into the city and pick up people, and Fema/Guard was not needed to bring food and water supplies in either.....

where were the cops?...the firemen?

the fire dept is famous for rescuing cats high up in trees.....couldn't they have seen to it that people could leave?

which brings me to this conclusions........the police and firemen did not come to work......there was no law and order in the city because because the police/fire depts were well undermanned...IMO, of course......

I also don't understand why food and water wasn't dropped down......

136 posted on 09/03/2005 1:39:11 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Guenevere
OMG. Chilling bump.

Thank you, Guenevere.

137 posted on 09/03/2005 1:48:49 AM PDT by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: nwrep

PING.


138 posted on 09/03/2005 1:53:51 AM PDT by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Guenevere
SHAMEFUL

It is, and it's all Bush's fault....because they are just poor blacks down there and HE doesn't give a rat's ass about them.

The spin has begun, and it's nauseatingly apparent that the left will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to turn this into some sick political coup.

139 posted on 09/03/2005 1:55:23 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit (Arise! Sir Loin of Beef...)
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To: Guenevere

Thank You for posting your experience in NO. Thank God you got out.

My heart aches for those souls left there for days and days without food, water and shelter. Young and old suffering without hope.


There needs to be a radical shake up in the Gov. in LA.


140 posted on 09/03/2005 4:06:01 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (Two Years of Poetry.......)
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