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World stunned as US struggles with Katrina
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| 9/2/05
| Andrew Gray
Posted on 09/02/2005 8:04:20 AM PDT by finnman69
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To: MNJohnnie
>>Just what did all our Fed Tax dollars buy after 9-11? Where is the disaster relief plans they got millions to equip and plan for? The contingency planning with the other 49 States NGs?
These are the same questions I have been asking myself as I've seen this unfold. Time to plan for a lot longer before any state NG help arrives should there be a terrorist attack because it appears that all the coordination problems between agencies exposed after 9/11 have still NOT been fixed.
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:44:22 AM PDT
by
Betis70
(Every generation needs a new revolution)
To: finnman69
Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn, in a veiled criticism of U.S. political thought, said the disaster showed the need for a strong state that could help poor people. "You see in this example that even in the 21st century you need the state, a good functioning state, and I hope that for all these people, these poor people, that the Americans will do their best," he told reporters at a European Union meeting in Newport, Wales.
Really? Isn't the problem with these parasites who have been taught to leech off of the state? This shows that what we need is rugged individualism, self reliance, personal freedom, individual responsibility, courage, leadership, compassion, NOT THE FREEKIN STATE!!
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:46:12 AM PDT
by
getitright
(There's no peace in appeasement.)
To: All
WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER STATES?????
FL WAS HIT BY FOUR HURRICANES LAST YEAR!!!!!
THIS IS A NEW ORLEANS PHENOMENON!!!
HOW ABOUT THE OTHER STATES CLEANING UP RIGHT NOW!!!
To: KC_Conspirator
There is no looting and mayhem in Slidell either. I bet there are people in Slidell thanking God that there is a lake between them and the people in NO.
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:46:31 AM PDT
by
Sloth
(Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
To: finnman69
The French lose 10,000 seniors during a heat wave.
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:48:41 AM PDT
by
kabar
To: Arpege92
REember CNN is a news wire service, their video is what is going out into the world.
CNN hates america.
CNN is marketing video to countries that hate america.
It is only logical CNN would push video which makes america look bad.
There will be no CNN news crews in AL or Miss.
To: Betis70
Not only not fixed. Apparently NOT EVEN PLANNED FOR! Why are all the school buses for NO sitting under water? Did they even TRY to move people? What, if anything, did the city and state govt's DO to prepare for this? They have been "Studying" the problem since Oct 2001? Just what did they DO? No plan, no 1st responders but plenty of time to posture for the cameras of the Dinosaur Media! Despicable AND Disgraceful
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:49:28 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(Conservatives...lack sufficient cynicism to properly assess the nature of their liberal opponents)
To: finnman69
Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn, in a veiled criticism of U.S. political thought, said the disaster showed the need for a strong state that could help poor people.
"You see in this example that even in the 21st century you need the state, a good functioning state, and I hope that for all these people, these poor people, that the Americans will do their best," he told reporters at a European Union meeting in Newport, Wales. Actually, I think it's a good example of why it's bad to depend so much on 'the state'.
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:50:23 AM PDT
by
eyespysomething
(Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur)
To: finnman69
"We need to take a breath and remind the world that NO is the exception. You are not hearing about outbreak of looting and violence in Mississippi and Alabama."
"We have a federal system and we WANT it that way. All systems have strengths and weaknesses. My heart goes out to those suffering in NO, but I don't WANT a federal police force. And I want local law enforcement to remain separate from the duties of our military."
"The world laughs at us now. But wait until they have a major disaster and then they will look to us for help."
"This isn't Bewitched where President Bush blinks his nose and fixes everything."
My thoughts in your words.
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:50:46 AM PDT
by
FatherFig1o155
(A conservative in NJ, and proud of it. The conservative part, that is.)
To: najida
It is very embarrassing on many different levels. Why? If you believe the MSM nothing is being done. In point of fact, FEMA is conducting one of the most massive relief efforts in history. People have unreasonable expectations after just four days into this disaster.
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:51:37 AM PDT
by
kabar
To: MNJohnnie
Completely agree. Sadly I live in another 'Rat area, so I fully expect similar lack of planning. And I am sure my veal calf neighbors are likewise without foresight.
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:51:37 AM PDT
by
Betis70
(Every generation needs a new revolution)
To: MNJohnnie; WOSG
>"Funny how Blanco (D-LA) finally deployed 300 Armed NG troops today to NO. ONLY THREE HUNDRED 4 days late?????"<
yup, too little too late. Watching the emergency vehicles, fire trucks, boats etc pour into New Orleans this morning really was impressive.
It's been known for years that New Orleans was a disaster waiting to happen however...I was there last year, visiting my daughter, and son-in-law, after Hurricane Ivan missed them. A local swamp tour guide told me that FEMA had prepared over ten thousand body bags in the event that Ivan had hit N.O. directly.
Now, given that they knew the potential, it seems FEMA should have taken some preemptive actions, like beefing up the levees, etc. I understand that there were hundreds of school buses that could have been used to evacuate people that are now sitting underwater, in new Orleans, in bus barns.
I don't fault Pres. Bush in this part, but those levees should have been beefed up, also. The Dutch use a triple wall levee system, and they don't have to contend with hurricanes.
The Army Corps of Engineers KNEW these levees would not withstand a Cat 4, or higher hurricane.
I suppose this is all 20/20 hindsight...but given the importance of the fact that N.O is the second largest port in the world? The potential for disaster should have been taken more seriously
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:52:17 AM PDT
by
FBD
(make April 15th just another day! Enact the FAIRTAX! www.fairtax.org)
To: lugsoul
If you aren't hearing about looting in MS, it is because you aren't listening.Where? Not a challange but where was it reported?
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:52:17 AM PDT
by
darkwing104
(Let's get dangerous)
To: longtermmemmory
CNN....The Cancerous News Network. At any rate, perhaps we are spending too much time worrying what some French idiot thinks of us. It serves no purpose other than to feed their ego if we let them believe that what they think of us, affects us.
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:52:21 AM PDT
by
Arpege92
("I am happy, be it yourselves." - Pope John Paul II)
To: darkwing104
We need to take a breath and remind the world that NO is the exception. You are not hearing about outbreak of looting and violence in Mississippi and Alabama.
True! Everyone is focusing on one city. Yet, three full states were effected by this. It's not as if New Orleans takes up the whole state of Louisiana. There should be more stories out of the other areas. But, I guess they aren't dramatic enough for the MSM.
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:54:11 AM PDT
by
HungarianGypsy
(They're coming to take me away.....)
To: longtermmemmory
FL WAS HIT BY FOUR HURRICANES LAST YEAR!!!!!I was hit by two of them and Floridians behaved ourselves
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:54:36 AM PDT
by
darkwing104
(Let's get dangerous)
To: headsonpikes
For at least 48 hours, governmental authorities have revealed themselves to be incompetent and utterly without leadership capacity.
Local and State governmental authorities. Let's have the same sort of catastrophe hit Vancouver, BC then we will see just how competent YOUR officials are on day 5.
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:55:28 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(Conservatives...lack sufficient cynicism to properly assess the nature of their liberal opponents)
To: Sloth
"I bet there are people in Slidell thanking God that there is a lake between them and the people in NO."
Uh oh. Boat people.
To: kabar
I'm talking about how badly some of the victims are behaving, the looting, the whining by the MSM, the whining by the Mayor, the governor etc.
That is what I meant by different levels.
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:56:57 AM PDT
by
najida
(I run with scissors and I don't play well with others.)
To: longtermmemmory
N.O has significance here, far more then these other areas.
The Port of New Orleans handles 5000 ships each year, 50,000 barges. It has one of the biggest refineries in the Gulf. There are barges that are sunk in the Mississippi in new Orleans right now, I believe all river traffic is blocked because of this...
It also has the switching station for almost all of the phone systems in the SW part of the country (not sure how smart that was...)
It's not the loss of tourism, here, that's a concern, here...
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:58:42 AM PDT
by
FBD
(make April 15th just another day! Enact the FAIRTAX! www.fairtax.org)
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