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Tancredo Predicts GOP Immigration Clash -- "Believe me, it will be one hell of a fight"
Human Events Online ^ | September 2, 2005 | Robert Bluey

Posted on 09/02/2005 7:46:59 AM PDT by hinterlander

President Bush and House conservatives are on a collision course over the contentious issue of immigration reform, Rep. Tom Tancredo (R.-Colo.) said Thursday.

Tancredo, chairman of the House Immigration Reform Caucus and author of the REAL GUEST Act (HR 3333), said he expects Bush to embrace legislation drafted by Senators Teddy Kennedy (D.-Mass.) and John McCain (R.-Ariz.). Conservatives strongly oppose the bill, which Tancredo said is tantamount to amnesty.

Tancredo’s bill instead focuses on enforcement, particularly on companies that employ illegal immigrants. He said once illegal workers are denied jobs, they will no longer flood into the United States.

“If you stop illegal employment in this country—some big, high-profile cases with . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at humaneventsonline.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Mexico; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Colorado; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; border; cornyn; illegal; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; kennedy; kyl; mccain; tancredo; votetancredo2008
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To: JohnnyZ

History and common sense tells us the the underlying ideas of the Mccain - Kennedy and Coryn - Kyle bills are failed ideas. Let's go back to 1986 when people here illegally were granted amnesty. The stated rationale for the policy was to decrease illegal immigration. Has illegal immigration decreased since 86? No, rather, it has drastically increased. I'm for a plan as opposed to the lax laws and enforcement we have now. My plan includes much tougher penalties for those who hire people here illegally, punitive provisions dealing with Mexico's complicity in illegal border crossing, preventing people here illegally from receiving welfare and other goodies from the states, doing away with banking schemes that favor people here illegally, cracking down on the illegal documents trade and rewarding those who try to migrate here through the proper channels.


101 posted on 09/02/2005 12:10:04 PM PDT by mikemikemikecubed
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To: raybbr

Actually, illegal immigrant is an oxymoron too.

Immigration implies legality.

The correct term is illegal alien.


102 posted on 09/02/2005 12:11:16 PM PDT by Veritas et equitas ad Votum (If the Constitution "lives and breathes", it dies.)
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To: hinterlander

There are alot of people in N'orleans that could use those landscaping/construction jobs held by ILLEGAL immigrants. AMERICA FIRST!!!


103 posted on 09/02/2005 12:11:56 PM PDT by Fawn (Being a FREE COUNTRY doesn't mean EVERYTHING'S FOR FREE!!!!!!!)
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To: Borax Queen; cartman90210; flashbunny

OMG!! lol, cartman, that must have taken you forever to compile...I can't believe some of what I read there.....very good...I'll remember to go back and read, when I've got more time. Very good job! : )


104 posted on 09/02/2005 12:17:33 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: bayourod

Did Ike not have people here illegally hunted down and deported on a massive scale? On this issue, I like Ike!


105 posted on 09/02/2005 12:19:08 PM PDT by mikemikemikecubed
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To: nicmarlo; bayourod
that must have taken you forever to compile

Actually, it didn't take much time at all. A couple seconds to copy the post, a couple seconds to paste, a few more seconds to copy-and-paste the link, and presto! Come back another day, add a few more things, and before ya know it, it's looking mighty impressive. Plus, maybe half of those posts were sent to me by other stalkers - I mean FReepers, so they did a good chunk of the legwork.

And of course, credit where credit is due - take a bow, rod!

106 posted on 09/02/2005 12:30:51 PM PDT by cartman90210 ("The Wacky World Of Bayourod" - it's as close as clicking on my profile page!)
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To: Common Tator
Anti illegal emigration has never been a winning issue. I wonder then why we have laws against it. Must have been some mistake. Surely after 9/11 the American people realize that we don't need such laws, let alone they be enforced./sarc
107 posted on 09/02/2005 12:33:23 PM PDT by planekT (lower demographic voter)
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To: planekT
Let me fix that post.

Anti illegal emigration has never been a winning issue.

I wonder then why we have laws against it. Must have been some mistake. Surely after 9/11 the American people realize that we don't need such laws, let alone they be enforced./sarc

108 posted on 09/02/2005 12:36:10 PM PDT by planekT (lower demographic voter)
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To: bayourod
He broke his term limit promise and since hooking up with Buchanan has been spewing extremist anti-Hispanic hate speech for the purpose of soliciting contributions.

You used the term "hate speech". This pretty much confirms what I've suspected all along about you, that you're a Liberal.

109 posted on 09/02/2005 12:37:50 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: cartman90210; bayourod

yes...true...credit where credit is due, and all that. : )


110 posted on 09/02/2005 12:38:08 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Alex Marko
Oh, imagine that...Tancredo on immigration. One issue candidate. He stands no chance. Dont waste our time with Tancredo's crap.

Are you pro-illegal immigration or anti-illegal immigration?

111 posted on 09/02/2005 12:39:50 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: Alex Marko
"One issue candidate."

That one issue will impact ALL other issues on anyone's plank to some degree.

112 posted on 09/02/2005 12:48:30 PM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Alex Marko

"Oh, imagine that...Tancredo on immigration. One issue candidate. He stands no chance. Dont waste our time with Tancredo's crap."

He's not a one issue candidate... this is just one of the most important issues, and no one else is proposing anything halfway useful.

If you can't attack the message... attack the messenger. You smell like a Dem.


113 posted on 09/02/2005 1:19:32 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Common Tator

"Huge numbers of Italians came to the USA. There was just one little problem. They could only be let into our nation illegally. You see most of them came with out any emigration papers or even a birth certificate. The only way we knew they were Italians was they spoke the language like a native."

Most Italians came WITH papers. I challenge you to cite a source which says otherwise. They also came legally - through established ports of entry. The entire southern border is not a "port of entry."

ALSO....

"We followed the law and turned them back right? NO WE LET THEM IN .... Americans who did not want them let in gave them a derogatory name.. They called them WOPs... Which is shorthand for illegal emigrant. They were let in with out legal emigration papers. They were... With Out Papers or WOPs."

BS

http://www.billcasselman.com/wording_room/wop.htm

A plausible source of the word wop is the Spanish adjective guapo, pronounced approximately 'wopo' or 'hwopo,' depending on dialect. Its prime and sensuous meaning is 'beautiful' or 'handsome.' As a noun it came to mean 'dandy" or 'foppish male.' Then, says one theory I don't agree with (see why below), Spanish soldiers sent to Sicily took guapo meaning 'dandy' with them where the word entered Sicilian dialect as guappo. The word made its way north in Italy to become part of the dialect of Naples also. Italian guappo turned into a term of affection among Italian men who, when some of them immigrated to the United States in the late 19th century, carried the word to America as a term of male affection.

You are full of it.


114 posted on 09/02/2005 1:32:10 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: bayourod

"Buchanan got ahold of him and they formed a fund raising partnership called Team America and Tancredo became Buchanan's sock puppet."

STOP REPEATING THIS LIE, you're a fool for repeating it over and over.

Tancredo has nothing to do with PAT Buchanan. The Buchanan who he started TA PAC with is BAY Buchanan...

You know who she was, right? Ronald Reagans campaign treasurer? I'd say then that she's good at it.

Stop trying to link Tancredo with Pat Buchanan. They have nothing in common.


115 posted on 09/02/2005 1:34:48 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: bayourod

"He broke his term limit promise and since hooking up with Buchanan has been spewing extremist anti-Hispanic hate speech for the purpose of soliciting contributions."

How about some quotes to back up that accusation, you congenital liar?


116 posted on 09/02/2005 1:36:17 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: RightWhale

"Rep Tancredo - try to redirect your thinking toward the disaster in the Gulf Shore. Much of the response mechanism would be the same as in your favorite issue; it shouldn't be hard to adapt all that to the emergency relief effort."

The gulf is in tatters, but the world hasn't stopped.

Think of all the illegals taking jobs that the refugees could fill!


117 posted on 09/02/2005 1:39:53 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: trubluolyguy

"But I have never seen him knowingly lie."

Read post 116


118 posted on 09/02/2005 1:42:29 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: adam_az
You know who she was, right? Ronald Reagans campaign treasurer? I'd say then that she's good at it.

Of course she is. Do you think he'd be warning anti-illegals not to "waste" their money on Tancredo if they really were wasting their money? As if! The last thing he'd want is for them to be spending their money on something effective.

119 posted on 09/02/2005 1:43:43 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: adam_az

The issue of the day is the Gulf Coast disaster. Most politicians will ride that issue for the next year. It's a strong horse and shouldn't be ignored. There should be a way to slant other issues toward this.


120 posted on 09/02/2005 1:45:01 PM PDT by RightWhale (25 degrees, clear, frost and birdshot, Fairbanks)
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