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Iraq-tested soldiers in New Orleans with shoot to kill orders
Agence France-Presse ^ | September 1, 2005

Posted on 09/01/2005 7:03:05 PM PDT by HAL9000

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To: JimSEA
The AFP story is now up at The Australian, a Rupert Murdoch newspaper.
81 posted on 09/01/2005 7:25:27 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Just mythoughts

Very similar indeed. I hope this ends the careers of Blanco and Nagin. (Prosecution would be preferable, but unlikely.)


82 posted on 09/01/2005 7:25:31 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: jscd3

They should fire Blanco and the mayor of NO and put Giuliani in charge.


83 posted on 09/01/2005 7:25:31 PM PDT by Accygirl
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To: Years_o_Lurkin
Yeah. I don't see what was retarded about her comments. Wierd

As I clarified elsewhere, I fully agree with the idea of coming down hard on the POS looters - it should have been done 2 days ago.

Rather, I'm talking about the actual quotes - the words she used rather then the general sentiment. Read them aloud to yourself - it does not sound like an adult with real responsibilities talking, it sounds like an freaking-out adolesent who was left in charge of a job best handled by grownups

I think that she has been absolutely overwhelmed by the demands of the job and, because of high stress, is operating at a capacity far below her normal level - hence the "sounding like a retard" comment.

Oh and if anyone from DU or some other lefty blog is reading this thread, nothing personal was meant by using "retard"... :-)

84 posted on 09/01/2005 7:26:11 PM PDT by jscd3
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To: HAL9000

The NG from LA were in Afghanistan they returned in Jan. They have been working from day 1.


85 posted on 09/01/2005 7:27:29 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: inquest

"they are more than willing to do so"

IF she said this, the above is nearly criminal.....it should be "reluctant but will follow my orders".........this one mindless utterance will be siezed upon forever to describe these folks as bloodthirsty killers. (been there, had it done already)


86 posted on 09/01/2005 7:28:10 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: caisson71
just trying to get something for his family to eat

You forgot the part where "he's turning his life around" by "just trying to get something for his family to eat!" That's usually how the sentences start here in Boston when some clown gets shot, he's turning his life around, yes indeedy.

87 posted on 09/01/2005 7:29:02 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: Accygirl
put Giuliani in charge.

Not a huge Giuliani fan, but he does seem to respond outstandigly in these horrible situations. While Banco and the Mayor of NO seem to collapse under the burden of this disaster, guys like Guiliani seem to leap to the challenge and f'n GROW under the burden.

88 posted on 09/01/2005 7:29:44 PM PDT by jscd3
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To: HAL9000

I'm going to get flamed for this, but I hope this news report is not true. I can see the AR Guard working with local police to restore law and order and making arrest. If they have orders to shoot to kill, then the Governor becomes the first in modern memory to order our troops to open fire upon our own people. Such an order would be unforgivable and the governor should be immediately removed from office.


89 posted on 09/01/2005 7:31:35 PM PDT by looois
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To: HAL9000
Shoot to kill...? Instead of what, shoot to inconvenience, shoot to dissuade?

If she truly said that, I agree, she's retarded.

90 posted on 09/01/2005 7:31:40 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: wagglebee
But, if Blanco is talking like this, she has clearly "gone over the edge" (probably from stress) and I have serious doubts about her ability to govern.

My point exactly, but probably not made as clearly as it ought to have been

91 posted on 09/01/2005 7:32:24 PM PDT by jscd3
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To: HAL9000; All; Happy2BMe; Memother; chesty_puller; Bigun; JohnHuang2; mhking; ...

http://www.africasia.com/services/news/newsitem.php?area=mideast&item=050902015113.5lgwn2uc.php

Iraq-tested soldiers in New Orleans with shoot to kill orders
Africasia, Africa - 30 minutes ago
... in anarchic New Orleans on Thursday, with the authorization to shoot and kill ... Arkansas National Guard have landed in the city of New Orleans," said Blanco. ...
AFP 2005

NEW ORLEANS, United States (AFP) - New Orleans made a "desperate SOS" for help as authorities struggled to stem a descent into anarchy and evacuate survivors of Hurricane Katrina which is now believed to have killed thousands.

Some 4,000 National Guard troops fought an uphill battle to restore order to the largely submerged jazz mecca plagued by gunbattles, fistfights, gangs of roving thugs, looters and carjackers.

Residents reported survivors dropping dead in shelters or gunned down outside the local convention center. Hospitals were evacuated after power ran out and helicopters ferrying patients and babies drew gunfire.

"This is a war zone," said Melissa Murray, 32, a Louisiana state corrections officer helping in the relief effort.

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin issued an urgent appeal for immediate help for up to 20,000 refugees stuck in the convention center in the heart of the stricken city.

"Currently, the convention center is unsanitary and unsafe and we are running out of supplies," Nagin said in a statement issued via CNN. "This is a desperate SOS."

With survivors complaining bitterly over the lack of security and the slow pace of relief operations, officials said they expected to have some 22,000 troops in the ground in Louisiana by Friday.

But the state governor, Kathleen Blanco, said up to 300,000 survivors may still be stuck in disaster areas in the state, and at least 40,000 uniformed troops were needed for New Orleans alone.

Although no precise death toll was available, Blanco and Louisiana senator Mary Landrieu said several thousand people were now believed to have been killed by Katrina after it slammed into the Gulf Coast on Monday.

Hundreds of stranded people waved flags on rooftops in a desperate bid to attract the attention of rescuers in New Orleans, while thousands remained trapped in the city's Superdome stadium which is surrounded by water.

But the rampant lawlessness distracted from frantic efforts to evacuate the city, where Nagin took hundreds of exhausted police off search and rescue duties to fight the looting gangs.

President George W. Bush, who was to visit the region Friday, vowed "zero tolerance" for armed gangs and other profiteers from the devastation wrought by Katrina.

But Thomas Jessie, a 31-year-old roofer, vented his fear and anger after spending a night in the squalor of the convention center with no National Guard or Red Cross workers in sight.

"We got dead bodies sitting next to us for days. I feel like I am going to die. People are going to kill you for water," Jessie told AFP.

"This is America, I don't understand the lack of communications between the authorities and the people," he said. "It is disgusting, we feel we have been forgotten."

Keshia Gray, 28, said the scene in the convention center turned more horrific by the hour.

"As the night went on, people were dying off. There were people shooting, fights broke out, the bathrooms were all clogged up and there was no water," she said. "Then the police started shooting. I couldn't stay in there."

A National Guardsman was shot outside the city's Superdome Stadium, which had housed up to 20,000 survivors in squalid, sweltering conditions before laborious evacuation operations began.

A shot was also fired at a Chinook helicopter taking part in the operation to move refugees out of the stadium to other cities, officials said.

Bush, criticized for his tardy response to the initial hours of the disaster, cranked up the federal government's relief machinery a day after cutting short his holiday to return to Washington.

The US Congress on Thursday also cut short its summer recess to hold emergency meetings aimed at quick passage of legislation allowing for 10 billion dollars in aid for victims of Katrina.

The president appealed for Americans to conserve car fuel for the next few weeks but said supply problems caused by damage to refineries on the Gulf Coast would only be temporary.

But US petrol stations saw panic buying and lengthening queues Thursday as a summer of pain for drivers battling sky-high oil prices intensified.

Officials moved to stave off mounting criticism of the response to what officials have called one of the worst natural disasters in US history, saying the flood waters were to blame for the slow progress.

"Let me emphasize, from the very beginning, and as we speak, rescue operations have continued and are continuing in full force," said Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff.

Officials said more than two million customers in five states stretching from Louisiana to Florida were still without electric power.

http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/050902001827.4oo7ci1a.html


92 posted on 09/01/2005 7:33:38 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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To: jpsb
I am not buying this story.

The important thing is the criminals buy it. Her tough words (obviously written by someone else) are intended to be a deterrent against anarchy.

93 posted on 09/01/2005 7:33:43 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000

Ain't gonna believe it unless verified by reputable sources.


94 posted on 09/01/2005 7:34:27 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: looois
then the Governor becomes the first in modern memory to order our troops to open fire upon our own people.

It may have been the case in Kent, Ohio in 1970.
95 posted on 09/01/2005 7:35:13 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: sinkspur

Lock and friggin Load....... Shoot to Kill, go go go go go.

Bout time too.


96 posted on 09/01/2005 7:35:24 PM PDT by billygoatgruff
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To: looois

What would you suggest they say to a hundred armed thugs standing on a helo pad and not allowing the chopper to deliver med supplies. Just what would you say, "please put down your little guns boyz." No sir, only one solution in dealing with thugs like this.They have the mentality of terroist. Mow them down should be the command! They are causing the loss of others.


97 posted on 09/01/2005 7:35:41 PM PDT by bootslee
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To: jscd3
If these are actual quotes from Blanco, then she sounds like she's retarded...

I was looking for the right words! Dittos on that!

98 posted on 09/01/2005 7:36:55 PM PDT by dennisw (***)
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To: HAL9000

Flipping the channels this afternoon, I believe it was a CNN "Journalist"
querrying one of the NG officers and sneeringly suggesting by her questions/accusations that just because they had been to Iraq did not mrean they were up to the job in NO. Kept asking just what special training made them capable of this job. I think she should have to patrol a few nights with the NG and gain an appreciation of their work.

Anyone else catch this?

vaudine


99 posted on 09/01/2005 7:37:24 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: jscd3
She is retarded. She lost it on Monday night. Somebody has drugged her it looks like.

FWIW you can't "lock and load" an M-16A2 or an M-4 for that matter.

This is my weapon, this is my gun, one is for fighting, one is for fun!

100 posted on 09/01/2005 7:38:57 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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