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Unrest Intensifies at Superdome Shelter
AP ^ | 9/1/05 | ADAM NOSSITER

Posted on 09/01/2005 10:37:44 AM PDT by NotchJohnson

Unrest Intensifies at Superdome Shelter Sep 01 12:56 PM US/Eastern

By ADAM NOSSITER Associated Press Writer

NEW ORLEANS

Fights and trash fires broke out at the hot and stinking Superdome and anger and unrest mounted across New Orleans on Thursday, as National Guardsmen in armored vehicles poured in to help restore order across the increasingly lawless and desperate city.

"We are out here like pure animals. We don't have help," the Rev. Issac Clark, 68, said outside the New Orleans Convention Center, where corpses lay in the open and evacuees complained that they were dropped off and given nothing.

An additional 10,000 National Guard troops from across the country were ordered into the hurricane-ravaged Gulf Coast to shore up security, rescue and relief operations in Katrina's wake as looting, shootings, gunfire, carjackings and other lawlessness spread.

That brought the number of troops dedicated to the effort to more than 28,000, in what may be the biggest military response to a natural disaster in U.S. history.

"The truth is, a terrible tragedy like this brings out the best in most people, brings out the worst in some people," said Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour on NBC's "Today" show. "We're trying to deal with looters as ruthlessly as we can get our hands on them."

The Superdome, where some 25,000 people were being evacuated by bus to the Houston Astrodome, descended into chaos.

Huge crowds, hoping to finally escape the stifling confines of the stadium, jammed the main concourse outside the dome, spilling out over the ramp to the Hyatt hotel next door _ a seething sea of tense, unhappy, people packed shoulder-to-shoulder up to the barricades where heavily armed National Guardsmen stood.

Fights broke out. A fire erupted in a trash chute inside the dome, but a National Guard commander said it did not affect the evacuation.

Outside the Convention Center, the sidewalks were packed with people without food, water or medical care, and with no sign of law enforcement. Thousands of storm refugees had been assembling outside for days, waiting for buses that did not come.

At least seven bodies were scattered outside, and hungry, desperate people who were tired of waiting broke through the steel doors to a food service entrance and began pushing out pallets of water and juice and whatever else they could find.

An old man in a chaise lounge lay dead in a grassy median as hungry babies wailed around him. Around the corner, an elderly woman lay dead in her wheelchair, covered up by a blanket, and another body lay beside her wrapped in a sheet.

"I don't treat my dog like that," 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. "I buried my dog." He added: "You can do everything for other countries but you can't do nothing for your own people. You can go overseas with the military but you can't get them down here."

Just above the convention center on Interstate 10, commercial buses were lined up, going nowhere. The street outside the center, above the floodwaters, smelled of urine and feces, and was choked with dirty diapers, old bottles and garbage.

"They've been teasing us with buses for four days," Edwards said.

People chanted, "Help, help!" as reporters and photographers walked through. The crowd got angry when journalists tried to photograph one of the bodies, and covered it over with a blanket. A woman, screaming, went on the front steps of the convention center and led the crowd in reciting the 23rd Psalm.

John Murray, 52, said: "It's like they're punishing us."

The first of hundreds of busloads of people evacuated from the Superdome arrived early Thursday at their new temporary home _ another sports arena, the Houston Astrodome, 350 miles away.

But the ambulance service in charge of taking the sick and injured from the Superdome suspended flights after a shot was reported fired at a military helicopter. Richard Zuschlag, chief of Acadian Ambulance, said it had become too dangerous for his pilots.

The military, which was overseeing the removal of the able-bodied by buses, continued the ground evacuation without interruption, said National Guard Lt. Col. Pete Schneider. The government had no immediate confirmation of whether a military helicopter was fired on.

In Texas, the governor's office said Texas has agreed to take in an additional 25,000 refugees from Katrina and plans to house them in San Antonio, though exactly where has not been determined.

In Washington, the White House said President Bush will tour the devastated Gulf Coast region on Friday and has asked his father, former President George H.W. Bush, and former President Clinton to lead a private fund-raising campaign for victims.

The president urged a crackdown on the lawlessness.

"I think there ought to be zero tolerance of people breaking the law during an emergency such as this _ whether it be looting, or price gouging at the gasoline pump, or taking advantage of charitable giving or insurance fraud," Bush said. "And I've made that clear to our attorney general. The citizens ought to be working together."

On Wednesday, Mayor Ray Nagin offered the most startling estimate yet of the magnitude of the disaster: Asked how many people died in New Orleans, he said: "Minimum, hundreds. Most likely, thousands." The death toll has already reached at least 110 in Mississippi.

If the estimate proves correct, it would make Katrina the worst natural disaster in the United States since at least the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and fire, which was blamed for anywhere from about 500 to 6,000 deaths. Katrina would also be the nation's deadliest hurricane since 1900, when a storm in Galveston, Texas, killed between 6,000 and 12,000 people.

Nagin called for a total evacuation of New Orleans, saying the city had become uninhabitable for the 50,000 to 100,000 who remained behind after the city of nearly a half-million people was ordered cleared out over the weekend, before Katrina blasted the Gulf Coast with 145-mph winds.

The mayor said that it will be two or three months before the city is functioning again and that people would not be allowed back into their homes for at least a month or two.

"We need an effort of 9-11 proportions," former New Orleans Mayor Marc Morial, now president of the Urban League, said on NBC's "Today" show. "So many of the people who did not evacuate, could not evacuate for whatever reason. They are people who are African-American mostly but not completely, and people who were of little or limited economic means. They are the folks, we've got to get them out of there."

"A great American city is fighting for its life," he added. "We must rebuild New Orleans, the city that gave us jazz, and music, and multiculturalism."

With New Orleans sinking deeper into desperation, Nagin ordered virtually the entire police force to abandon search-and-rescue efforts Wednesday and stop the increasingly brazen thieves.

"They are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas _ hotels, hospitals, and we're going to stop it right now," Nagin said.

In a sign of growing lawlessness, Tenet HealthCare Corp. asked authorities late Wednesday to help evacuate a fully functioning hospital in Gretna after a supply truck carrying food, water and medical supplies was held up at gunpoint.

The floodwaters streamed into the city's streets from two levee breaks near Lake Pontchartrain a day after New Orleans thought it had escaped catastrophic damage from Katrina. The floodwaters covered 80 percent of the city, in some areas 20 feet deep, in a reddish-brown soup of sewage, gasoline and garbage.

The Army Corps of Engineers said it planned to use heavy-duty Chinook helicopters to drop 15,000-pound bags of sand and stone into a 500- foot gap in the failed floodwall.

But the agency said it was having trouble getting the sandbags and dozens of 15-foot highway barriers to the site because the city's waterways were blocked by loose barges, boats and large debris.

Lt. Gov. Mitch Landrieu toured the stricken areas said said rescued people begged him to pass information to their families. His pocket was full of scraps of paper on which he had scribbled down their phone numbers.

When he got a working phone in the early morning hours Thursday, he contacted a woman whose father had been rescued and told her: "Your daddy's alive, and he said to tell you he loves you."

"She just started crying. She said, `I thought he was dead,'" he said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fights; katrina; neworleans; superdome; urbanbarbarians
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To: warchild9
People are dying in the streets of the South, while Halliburton pads its contracts with MY money in a far-off land. And you can only blame clichees. You're a twit.

Oh, like blaming Halliburton isn't the ULTIMATE cliche.

People, like you, who attempt to use a disaster like this to score political points are the moral equivalent of looters.
61 posted on 09/01/2005 10:58:08 AM PDT by Antoninus (Dominus Iesus, miserere nobis.)
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To: beyond the sea
The Great Society, the Age of Dependency, The Welfare Society ,........... speaks. Enjoy it, liberals. Hope you're proud.

Couldn'ta said it better myself. This is where the stinking rubber meets the road of their sentimentically braindead "idealism", which has devolved into rank excusism for blatant criminality.

Do not shy away from mashing this into the faces of faaaashionable liberals slinking away from their trails of excrement, leading to this putrid end.

62 posted on 09/01/2005 10:58:13 AM PDT by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: Rodney King

You're right. The Nanny State giveth, and the Nanny State taketh away.


64 posted on 09/01/2005 10:58:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Texas_Conservative2
I cant believe the Army, Natl Guard, Navy or some other unit cannot sling load a CH 47 with MREs and water into that area. Some logisticians are not with the program. These people are STARVING for crying out loud. There's Ft Rucker AL, (if they are still in business) and there are Army bases throughout the South. It aint that damn far away to get the essentials to include troops to patrol the streets. Fly cover with gunships if necessary. Someone at state or federal level needs to increase the tempo on support.
65 posted on 09/01/2005 10:58:49 AM PDT by Burf
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To: Homer1

How come the buses aren't moving and food and water aren't being distributed?""

Want to sign up yourself for either job when people are shooting at you? I am of course presuming that the drivers/volunteers aren't armed to shoot back......


66 posted on 09/01/2005 10:59:21 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Antoninus

No, shouting "liberal" when people are dying in the streets is purile. (And look that up, please.)


67 posted on 09/01/2005 10:59:27 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9
And until you work middle management in a big corporation, as I have, YOU will have no idea of how corrupt these suits are.

LOL. I have. And got the hell out ASAP.

68 posted on 09/01/2005 10:59:39 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: NotchJohnson

A few are coming through. I heard someone on CNN say that Mexico will be sending some people that way.


69 posted on 09/01/2005 11:00:13 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: No Blue States
But Peter Ambros says federal officials commandeered the buses, and told the guests to join thousands of other evacuees at the New Orleans convention center.

But wait, there have been folks here on FR saying that the poor are worse off than those with money! This can't be true! You mean, even those with money are stuck in NO? (sarcasm tag for those who don't understand sarcasm)

70 posted on 09/01/2005 11:00:37 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: NotchJohnson
The crowd got angry when journalists tried to photograph one of the bodies, and covered it over with a blanket.

The nerve of the media vultures. How would you like if your family member's body was shown on national TV?

71 posted on 09/01/2005 11:00:49 AM PDT by Truthsayer20
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To: warchild9
No, shouting "liberal" when people are dying in the streets is purile. (And look that up, please.)

You mean puerile, from the Latin puer or "child". Wow, ya'll librals shure be smrt!
72 posted on 09/01/2005 11:00:52 AM PDT by Antoninus (Dominus Iesus, miserere nobis.)
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To: Rodney King

Are you going to be mad when the put the dead in piles and torch them?


73 posted on 09/01/2005 11:00:57 AM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: nmh
WHY oh WHY didn't these people EVACUATE as they were TOLD to do?

Maybe they didn't have cars. I have a friend in New Orleans now because her flight was canceled.

74 posted on 09/01/2005 11:00:59 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Rodney King

I lasted fifteen years. And have the psychic scars to prove it.


75 posted on 09/01/2005 11:01:01 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: beyond the sea
The Great Society, the Age of Dependency, The Welfare Society ,........... speaks. Enjoy it, liberals. Hope you're proud.

TRUE TRUE TRUE !!!

76 posted on 09/01/2005 11:01:01 AM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops and their Families)
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To: Burf
Someone at state or federal level needs to increase the tempo on support.

And the dome isn't the only place. I saw equally desperate people at the convention center and I bet there are other pockets of people. They are reaching a breaking point.

77 posted on 09/01/2005 11:01:04 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: warchild9
We need to get Howdy Doody out of the White House, and put Guiliani in charge. His is proven leadership.

You've got to be kidding me. The last time this White House took any direction from Rudy Giuliani, it named his bootlicker Bernie Kerik to be the Homeland Security Director. Ironically, he withdrew his nomination when it became apparent that his track record in law enforcement would have made him a perfect fit for a police department as corrupt and incompetent as New Orleans.

78 posted on 09/01/2005 11:01:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Burf

The governor needs to activate all present and past National Guard troops in the state and ask them to report to a meeting spot somewhere near New Orleans, and then send them into the city, by foot if necessary with relief supplies.


79 posted on 09/01/2005 11:01:44 AM PDT by Texas_Conservative2
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To: Antoninus

Wow, it don't take you bots long to revert to high school name-calling!


80 posted on 09/01/2005 11:01:57 AM PDT by warchild9
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