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California lawmaker wants state to regulate petroleum industry (D-Joe Dunn)
ap on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 9/1/05 | Beth Fouhy - ap

Posted on 09/01/2005 9:40:53 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 09/01/2005 9:41:08 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

They haven't learned yet....


2 posted on 09/01/2005 9:42:14 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I hear the Vonage music playing.....woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo....)
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To: NormsRevenge
Forgot the energy crisis already?

Are all the dems on mind altering drugs or hoping the sane among us are short on memory?

3 posted on 09/01/2005 9:42:58 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH ~ A NATIONAL TREASURE)
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To: NormsRevenge

Regulating will cause shortages. It's that simple.

Keep our prices down, and the refineries will send product out of state where they can charge what the market will bear.


4 posted on 09/01/2005 9:43:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh, that will help a lot. They'll be so popular with California's freeway commuters!


5 posted on 09/01/2005 9:43:45 AM PDT by Tax-chick (How often lofty talk is used to deny others the same rights one claims for oneself. ~ Sowell)
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To: NormsRevenge

I need to think of some product that can be sold to californians waiting in gas lines...


6 posted on 09/01/2005 9:44:43 AM PDT by flashbunny (Defending the free market on free republic is like having to defend the flag at a VFW convention.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Criticizing oil industry profits, a California lawmaker has introduced legislation to give a state agency broad authority to regulate the cost of fuel.

No. He's regulating the PRICE of fuel. He's not doing a damn thing about the cost of producing it, only the PRICE at which it's sold.

7 posted on 09/01/2005 9:44:48 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Dunn is Dumb.


8 posted on 09/01/2005 9:46:01 AM PDT by squirt-gun
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Sen. Joe Dunn, D-Garden Grove

is an idiot. I'm sure he would vote to restore nuclear energy to California or permit offshore drilling - NOT! Another fool that doesn't seem to understand the simple economics of supply and demand...so go ahead Joe, you stupid twat, set ceilings on profits for oil companies and watch how much gas California gets at all in the future...dumbass!!

9 posted on 09/01/2005 9:46:41 AM PDT by michaelbfree
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To: NormsRevenge

Joe Dunn has never met a business he hasn't wanted to regulate.


Socialist dimwit. The growing conservative asian population in Garden Grove will hopefully send this man his walking papers next election.


10 posted on 09/01/2005 9:47:35 AM PDT by socal_parrot
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Dimwit is right. But most Californians will probably lap up this swill.


11 posted on 09/01/2005 9:50:22 AM PDT by My2Cents
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To: NRA1995
They haven't learned yet....

First they make life miserable for the power companies, so they stop building. Then they bankrupt the state trying to compensate by buying out of state power.

Now they want to chase out the energy companies. Maybe they think they can feed CA's oil jones by speculating in oil futures on the NYMEX.

12 posted on 09/01/2005 9:51:40 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Does anything normal go on in the minds of these liberal twits?
I read articles like this and become more and more convinced, being a liberal isn't "progressive", its a mental illness!
13 posted on 09/01/2005 9:57:34 AM PDT by Beagle8U
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To: NormsRevenge
So what's the big problem ?

The legislature proved its worth already ! (in regulating electricity)

14 posted on 09/01/2005 10:08:42 AM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: atomicpossum
He's regulating the PRICE of fuel. He's not doing a damn thing about the cost of producing it, only the PRICE at which it's sold.

First of all, it does not matter what end of the economic equation you try to regulate. Prioces are always, repeat always, a function of supply and demand.

Try to regulate the price, you hold it below market clearing levels and demand exceeds supply - a shortage.

Try to regulate "cost" - however defined - you end up with reduced supply, and higher prices.

To be honest, I hope these clowns in California get their way and MANDATE a gasoline price ceiling of $1.50 per gallon. Why? Because NO ONE will ship any gasoline to California - the increase in supply to the rest of the country will dramatically reduce everyone elses prices.

I say let theses socialist bastards be hoisted by their own petard.

15 posted on 09/01/2005 10:08:55 AM PDT by jscd3
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To: NormsRevenge
How fast would Joe Dunn oppose the construction of a couple refinaries in California? Specifically in his district?

Thats what I thought.

16 posted on 09/01/2005 10:10:32 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: jscd3
I'm aware of that. It's just that when they say 'control the cost,' they mean 'force someone else further up the line to pay.' If it were put in those terms, it would be easy to see that it's a sham and a fell-good measure and a recipe for disaster.
17 posted on 09/01/2005 10:11:16 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: flashbunny

broccabrellas!


18 posted on 09/01/2005 10:15:48 AM PDT by steve8714 ("Smoke me a kipper, Listy!")
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To: socal_parrot

I think Old Joe is termed out.


19 posted on 09/01/2005 10:38:12 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: NRA1995
Hey, I think this is a great idea! A noble experiment. We can sit back and observe what State regulation does to the situation in California. Plus, with the inevitable shortages there, it will mean more for us!

Pass the popcorn.

20 posted on 09/01/2005 10:45:37 AM PDT by weaponeer
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