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Vitriol knee jerkers ? Sounds like alot of "freepers" who cling to their athiestict darwinsim at all costs.
1 posted on 09/01/2005 8:52:24 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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The book claims that Earth is so unique, it must have been created by an "intelligent designer."

Suppose we found a planet around another star, with living creatures on it?

We wouldn't be unique anymore.

By this logic, that means that ID would be proven false, I guess.

2 posted on 09/01/2005 8:58:04 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

It must be a common minor neurological disorder - transposition of adjacent letters in the same word. I've seen it a lot - no other typos but this kind. Like "athiestic" [with "s" added at the end for a good measure], and "darwinsim".


3 posted on 09/01/2005 8:58:14 AM PDT by GSlob
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Sounds like alot [sic] of "freepers" who cling to their athiestict [sic] darwinsim [sic] at all costs.

Some of us prefer to keep science and religion separate.

By the way, the spell checker is our friend. That's three boo-boos in just one sentence.

4 posted on 09/01/2005 8:58:45 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Is this a good tagline?)
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To: PatrickHenry

Do you think we're being overrun by Designed Universe retreads?


14 posted on 09/01/2005 9:23:06 AM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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Why just the Earth the result of design? How about everything that exists in the entire universe being the result of intelligent design? Lookit, the discovery of fractal mathematics was a minor revolution in that its derivative "chaos theory" basically destroyed the concept of "random" for all "eternity". Chaos theory says that there is pattern, order, predictability even in "random" or high entropy events and processes.

A quick aside- just leave it to the mavens of the grant lackey science mafia to name a branch of mathematics that discovers order in ALL things "chaos theory". That's like naming a charging tiger "nice kitty" or a bald tire a "safety tire". What was the ideological mafia trying to hide?

Anyhow, this universe and all that contains is nothing if not one huge diagram of various time/space entities constructed and interacting LAWFULLY. Of course this will change our anthropomorphised picture of God as an old guy in a robe with an hourglass in one hand and a scythe in the other, but the major idea that we can derive from a LAWFUL universe is that it then becomes knowable.

Yes, humans can discover this puppy, figure it out and act accordingly as in the Book of Genesis injunction to subdue and utilize nature. That means that our minds do not need centralized priesthoods to interpret "spiritual" matters for us. We can then act as sentient sovereign independent free agents reflecting the lawfullness of all things. Priesthoods gave us human sacrifice, brahminic caste social divisions, slavery and birthright aristocracy overseers- everything that this nation revolted against. The result of that revolution of free will was the nation that has led all people of earth into new realms of economic, juridical and creative freedom.

Yes, there is a design. You have to lobotomize yourself not to see it.

Walter


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28 posted on 09/01/2005 9:33:09 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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"People have observed for centuries that the moon and sun often appear the same size in the sky. How is the ability to view eclipses connected to the ability to support life?

"It occurred to me - the best place in the solar system to view a solar eclipse is also the best place in the solar system to support complex life," Gonzalez says. "Is that just a coincidence?""

A number of things are happening here. One, Gonzalez is very weak in his scientific reasoning. Scientists need to patiently demolish his ideas, which is not very difficult to do.

Two, religious people are supporting these kinds of weak scientific ideas for religious reasons. There is nothing wrong with people doing this. There's no such thing as a legitimate way to build a barrier between religious thoughts and scientific thoughts. Real scientists need to keep their heads emotionally and simply keep refuting these ideas based on fact and logic. Ultimately, if ideas like this win out, it means we are living in a theocracy. However, we are nowhere close to that at this point in time. Therefore, ideas like this have no real chance in the scientific marketplace.

Three, Leftist are jumping in and turning this into a political battle. As usual, the Left is wrong on this one. we cannot quote "ban" religious thinking from science. such a being in would be inimical to science, which by its definition is open to logical attack from all comers. Leftists want to destroy science in America, just like they want to destroy everything else.

This whole issue is a good example of why the Republican Party needs to consist of more than Christian Fundamentalists.


44 posted on 09/01/2005 9:55:07 AM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: Para-Ord.45

You can use ID as fish bait now?


68 posted on 09/01/2005 10:48:33 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Para-Ord.45

Have any of you actually read the book mentioned at the beginning of the first post? It uses "Science" to put forth the premise that, given an unbiased look at the facts, Earth IS so unique it makes sense to wonder if we are in a "creation". This book is so full of science, I couldn't understand some of it...but then, I am an idiot.


72 posted on 09/01/2005 11:33:31 AM PDT by Imnidiot (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: Para-Ord.45

bump for later reading


80 posted on 09/01/2005 5:00:38 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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