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After the Storm: The good, the bad, the let's-shoot-them-now
WSJ.com OPINION JOURNAL ^ | Thursday, September 1, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 09/01/2005 2:34:49 AM PDT by Siobhan

Katrina is a huge and historic story. The human cost, the financial cost, the rendering uninhabitable of a great and fabled American city--all of it amazing. A quick look at the good, the bad, and the let's-shoot-them-now.

• The governors. Political leadership in times of crisis is a delicate thing. You have to be frank about the fix you're in without being demoralizing. You have to seem confident without seeming out of touch with reality. You have to be human without indulging all your very human emotions. Rudy Giuliani set the modern standard on 9/11, and in a way that is not remarked upon. All his public statements were brilliantly specific. He told you exactly what resources were on their way to do what and where and why; he told you the No. 4 subway had been diverted west and then south until 11 a.m. Saturday; he told exactly which blocks were closed off and for how long; he told you New York would come back and then he told you why and how. His leadership was a masterpiece of specificity. That he had the facts at his command left people feeling: Thank God, someone's in charge, I can take care of me while he takes care of the city. That's what people want in a time of crisis.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: katrina; louisiana; neworleans; noonan; orleans; peggy; peggynoonan
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To: beyond the sea
As for the tragic piggism that is taking place on the streets of New Orleans, it is not unbelievable but it is unforgivable, and I hope the looters are shot. A hurricane cannot rob a great city of its spirit, but a vicious citizenry can.

These people are showing the bizarre and regrettable results of the Great Society (War on Poverty). Happy liberals??

21 posted on 09/01/2005 3:24:04 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: Siobhan

New Orleans needs a Rudy.

They're sorely lacking a local leader.


22 posted on 09/01/2005 3:24:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: DB
They understand the difference between food and CD players.

It's hard to tell the difference between some clothes in a bag and six loaves of bread in a bag.

23 posted on 09/01/2005 3:25:40 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: beyond the sea
By the way.......... why are so many of those people down there so FAT?

Your tax dollars at work!*

*The photo excerpted fro a Univision Spanish-language article explaining how the US Govt freely gives away food. Citizenship not required.

24 posted on 09/01/2005 3:26:56 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Siobhan
The night of this hurricane, I was pondering what I would do if I were caught in New Orleans in this storm. I decided my #1 priority would be to get my family out of the town as fast as possible.

My preference would be to have our backpacks, plenty of rope, water, a little food, waterproof matches, maybe an axe and a tent, and some firearms. Pack before the storm hit. Life vests wouldn't be a bad idea.

I would have put my family on a forced march (forced wade?) to get outside that city within a day. The dangers from flooding, disease, violence, snakes, and dehydration become worse every day. I rejected the idea of going to that football stadium, because the government wouldn't be able to support the numbers of people there.

gitmo

25 posted on 09/01/2005 3:30:36 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: beyond the sea

The Welfare class: I think I'll steal this jewelry.......... oh yeh, I'm starving and thirsty as h*ll, but I need this jewelry now. Hey Jamal......grab that tv and that radio.


26 posted on 09/01/2005 3:30:37 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: Siobhan
If this part of the story grows--if cities on the gulf come to seem like some combination of Dodge and the Barbarian invasion--it's going to be bad for our country.

It's much worse than Dodge, Peggy. Dodge City was paradise compared to this sin pad.

27 posted on 09/01/2005 3:33:07 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: beyond the sea

If in doubt, search, ask questions.

Again, these people are well trained.


28 posted on 09/01/2005 3:35:13 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Siobhan
If New Orleans damages that sense, it's going to be painful to face. It's going to be damaging to the national spirit. More damaging even than a hurricane, even than the worst in decades.

It already has damaged that sense.

Welcome to the age of 'entitlement' and The Welfare mentality. It is right on a big stage right now!

29 posted on 09/01/2005 3:36:25 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: Siobhan
I will take excepetion of the kudos to the media; specifically the ones who said that a bullet had been dodged just as the storm was making landfall. Now, I got my reports second hand, via the Live Thread mostly; where there was concern that the levees might break.

So maybe there were voices of caution. But what I heard was almost giddiness.

31 posted on 09/01/2005 3:43:14 AM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: DB
From another poster:

Gotta hand it to the one looter, he used the pedestrian crosswalk to cross the street.

32 posted on 09/01/2005 3:43:54 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: fml

"Would they stop if thy knew - I doubt it, they don't care."

That gets a sad "Amen".


33 posted on 09/01/2005 3:52:32 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: SLB

In all fairness, great as Rudy was, 9/11 was a minor event compared to the total devastation in the Gulf coast. I say dont shoot the piano player, He is doing the best he can. We have much more to deal with than "what subway train has been diverted". It is also tragic that we must waste police time to deal with looters. I say shoot the bastards and get on with important things.
barbra ann


34 posted on 09/01/2005 3:53:48 AM PDT by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: tkathy
Peggy Noonan: I wonder if the cruel and stupid young people who are doing the looting know the power they have to damage their country. I wonder, if they knew, if they'd stop it.

I have never known Peggy Noonan to be naive. She just showed she is quite naive. These thugs could care less about their nation.

Re your comment that the people of New Orleans and LA need to elect some strong Republican leaders................. let's get realistic. Those thugs and thieves in New Orleans are RATs and never will elect a law and order Republican--you know that! Don't be a Peggy Noonan.

That is like asking the million illegal aliens in Los Angeles to elect a Republican. They will elect a Mexican RAT. Our nation is slowly sinking into a swamp due to kumbaya politics from both the RATs and the Republicans.

35 posted on 09/01/2005 4:03:13 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: DB

Absolutely. Getting New orleans settled down will be like retaking the city.


36 posted on 09/01/2005 4:07:57 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: beyond the sea
By the way.......... why are so many of those people down there so FAT?

Because carbs are the cheapest food source to be found, and fried foods are the norm.

37 posted on 09/01/2005 4:15:42 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Siobhan

Cops should allow anyone to take food, water, and a couple of items of clothes. It is all destroyed anyway and the food will rot. TVs, computers, jewelry, anything else, ka-boom.


38 posted on 09/01/2005 4:34:05 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: don-o

Sorry to disillusion you, but there were many concerns voiced about the levees in advance of the storm. There were even animated computer models that were repeatedly shown that demonstrated that N. O. would fill up like a bathtub in the event of a levee break and that the levees on the other side would prevent the water from draining. The estimate was that it would take 6 weeks to pump the city dry.

The "bullet dodged" reports were from uniformed, out of town, media types who thought that because the winds did not blow the city down, all danger was past.


39 posted on 09/01/2005 4:42:07 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SLB

Most of their constituents have no way of hearing any of their plans anyway. And that's just as well considering the governor and mayor in LA.


40 posted on 09/01/2005 4:49:06 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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