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Chimp and human DNA is 96% identical
The Financial Times ^ | August 31 2005 | Clive Cookson

Posted on 08/31/2005 6:18:11 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: LiteKeeper
[both sidestep the most significant features of that evidence]

And what would "the most significant features" be?

The actual *nature* of the similarities and differences in the DNA, *and* the way in which the implied phylogenies superbly match the other independent lines of evidence for common descent.

Instead, the creationists ignore all that, and just hand-wave about how "similarities don't prove nothin'" (while sidestepping the fact that the DNA comparisons yield far more phylogenetic signal than mere amorphous "similarities), and mumblings about morphological features, which disingenuously tries to deny the realities of gene function, as well as the synonymous differences between genomes.

81 posted on 08/31/2005 8:20:46 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: reagan_fanatic; Ichneumon
Ichneumon - I'll offer my heartfelt apologies to you when you can refer to it as the Fact of Evolution as opposed to the Theory of Evolution.

Um, you do realize that the next step in the scientific process is Law, not Fact, right? Facts are the individual pieces of data and evidence that scientific theories are based upon, not what a theory becomes.

Oh, and by the way, evolution itself is a fact, in that it is demonstrable that certain character traits can manifest over generations and be passed along to descendants. That makes evolution (little 'e') a fact, and is but one piece of evidence supporting the Theory of Evolution (big 'e').

82 posted on 08/31/2005 8:28:57 PM PDT by Antonello
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To: Coyoteman
>> But why medium rare? Good meat should never be overcooked!

The wife goes by the flash fry method, anything under well done is raw to her and she gags.

I have to supervise things to get MR.

I like the Pittsburgh myself, though I have to eat outside with the dogs if I do it... And she bitches all night about the smell.
83 posted on 08/31/2005 8:29:26 PM PDT by mmercier (better to burn out than fade away)
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To: reagan_fanatic
Ichneumon - I'll offer my heartfelt apologies to you when you can refer to it as the Fact of Evolution as opposed to the Theory of Evolution.

Okay: Evolution is a Fact and a Theory, Five Major Misconceptions about Evolution, [Debunking] Creationist Claim CA201: Evolution is only a theory. It is not a fact, Introduction to Evolutionary Biology, and 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution" Scientific Proof?.

I appreciate your heartfelt apology, that's mighty big of you.

Have a great evening!

Thanks, you too.

84 posted on 08/31/2005 8:30:44 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: neverdem

Hey, thats down, they used to peg it at 98% But that was probably just in the New England university scene.


85 posted on 08/31/2005 8:35:05 PM PDT by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century Democratic Party when he wrote 1984)
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


87 posted on 08/31/2005 9:10:33 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: saul goode
Why, if it weren't, evolutionists wouldn't be able to take you to a jungle ...errrrrrrr... ***RAINFOREST*** and show everyone evidence of apes actively evolving into humans. In fact, everywhere I look, I see evidence of it. It's not just with apes, either. Why there're frogs with moustaches just evolving away.

Here's an idea- before you come onto these threads and start making inane claims about the theory of evolution, perhaps you should actually go and learn what the TOE says.

That way, you won't end up looking like an idiot.

88 posted on 08/31/2005 9:24:10 PM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: A message
As a courtesy, I would like to reply to you that I have completed my reply and I realize my intentions are more suited for an Evo vs ID thread. My reply is inappropriate for this particular thread because it would be off the subject. I will post the reply at a future time on an Evo vs ID thread.

Okay, fair enough.

And my apologies at the moment for wasting your time.

No apology needed -- the only person with the power to waste my time is myself. ;-)

89 posted on 08/31/2005 9:30:48 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: saul goode
Yours was post #58.. I was looking for it..
( Surprised it wasn't sooner..)
90 posted on 08/31/2005 9:43:35 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: neverdem

bonobo bump


91 posted on 08/31/2005 9:47:29 PM PDT by benjaminjjones
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To: neverdem
The first detailed genetic comparison between humans and chimpanzees shows that 96 per cent of the DNA sequence is identical in the two species.

I remember reading the identical statement ten years ago.
Why is this news again?

I'm almost afraid to ask. What's the purpose of "re-publishing it" so to speak?

92 posted on 08/31/2005 9:49:36 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: ICE-FLYER

HHAHAHAHAHAHaH thats soooooo funny ..Just spit out my iced tea here...AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


93 posted on 08/31/2005 9:52:31 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: TXBubba
It's that 4% you gotta watch out for.

What % difference would you guess there is between Einstein and a moron like Michael Moore?

94 posted on 08/31/2005 9:54:23 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: saul goode
The sheets on my bed have the exact same thread count as my pillow cases. They are the same color. They smell the same. They feel the same. They have the exact same pattern. They are made from the same material. They are identical in nearly every measurable way. Using your logic, I am convinced that my pillow cases evolved from my sheets.

Your bedsheets and pillowcases are able to reproduce?
95 posted on 08/31/2005 10:11:05 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: reagan_fanatic
Last time I checked, the theory of evolution was just that - a theory.

A "theory" is the highest level that an explanation can reach in science. There is nothing above "theory". Saying that evolution is "just" a theory doesn't prove anything.
96 posted on 08/31/2005 10:11:52 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Antonello
Um, you do realize that the next step in the scientific process is Law, not Fact, right?

Theories and Laws are two different kinds of statements. Theories do not become laws.
97 posted on 08/31/2005 10:13:23 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: neverdem

Bump for later... time to hit the rack tonight.


98 posted on 08/31/2005 10:37:33 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: ICE-FLYER
Wow...look how close Teddy's DNA must be!

But that's an Orangatan, not a chimp. I think the Irish are descended from a common ancestor of those, at least the Kennedy clan.

99 posted on 08/31/2005 10:40:39 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: RightWhale
Hasn't there been a time when you could have used an extra hand?

Yes there has. But, the benefits weren't worth the design headaches.

100 posted on 08/31/2005 11:28:37 PM PDT by YHAOS
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