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Looters around the city freely cleaning out stores (Amazingly Honest Account)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Natalie Pompilio

Posted on 08/31/2005 7:09:41 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel

Looters around the city freely cleaning out stores


Inquirer Staff Writer

At first it just seemed that the Wal-Mart in New Orleans' Lower Garden District was doing a very brisk post-hurricane business yesterday: The parking lot was full, people were leaving with brimming baskets, and city police and firefighters were there as if to oversee it all.

But people weren't going through the front door. They were squeezing between boards meant to protect the now-shattered glass from Hurricane Katrina's winds. One man was packing his van so full of computers, televisions and DVD players that he had trouble closing the rear doors. One woman was carrying three jugs of laundry detergent in a city with no power to run a washer.

As in so many past disasters elsewhere when crisis and chaos have replaced order and normalcy, a beleaguered New Orleans was beset by looters.

The widespread plundering started before Katrina had finished its onslaught Monday. That afternoon, looters broke into an emptied sporting-goods warehouse in Mid-City, a grocery in Treme, and the hardware center Uptown. In one instance, witnesses said, police were called but did nothing until one man shot another.

People said they had heard Wal-Mart had opened its doors to provide supplies for law-enforcement agencies sheltering the 10,000- plus people in the Louisiana Superdome. A Wal-Mart spokeswoman, Sharon Weber, said law enforcement, emergency-management teams, and relief agencies had "unwritten permission" to help themselves to whatever they need from Wal-Mart stores in times of crisis, but that standard procedure was for the police or aid officials to "leave us a list of what they take so they can pay us later."

At the Lower Garden District Wal-Mart, among the items seen being loaded into police cars were dozens of T-shirts, DVDs, and dog food.

But when law-enforcement officials went to get their goods, others - people of all ages and races - followed.

"They just came and no one could stop them," said David Brown, 38, a Port of New Orleans employee.

Brown and a coworker were filling their vehicle with dozens and dozens of canned goods - stews and chilis and Spaghetti-O's. Brown said the food would be used to feed the port's police and its employees, many of whom, like him, had worked nonstop since Saturday.

They were only taking essentials, he said, though a copy of Queen Latifah's Beauty Shop movie had apparently made that list.

Brown said the work showed no sign of easing.

"It's pretty bad," he said. "They've been calling for body bags all day."

Most streets in New Orleans were empty yesterday except for the hub around the Wal-Mart, in a section of the city that remained dry. People were everywhere: in cars and trucks, pushing goods in carts and baby carriages, dragging full trash cans and laundry baskets. The steady stream of cars caused a traffic jam on the streets near the store - the type of traffic jam last seen here when people tried to evacuate.

"Is everything free?" asked a woman who pulled up in a red car. Hearing "yes," she started to chant: "TV! TV! TV!"

Inside, a teenage boy held up a pair of blue lacy panties and snickered, "I want to see somebody in these so bad," before tossing them in his basket.

Another man used a table to break into one of the last unscathed jewelry cases.

A rumor that the National Guard had arrived sent people running toward the store's exit, shouting: "Come on! Come on!" But no one put down any merchandise, and the Guard rumor turned out to be false.

Some shoppers were oddly selective. One woman said she was taking only facial-care products. Another was pushing a cart filled with silk roses and baby's breath. In the pharmacy aisle, she leaned over the handle, pushing it slowly as she read labels the way a paying customer would.

But the overwhelming feeling was one of chaos - angry shouting, carts ramming, fast grabbing. When a teenage girl passed out face down between the baby clothes and a women's-sock display, people pushed past or stepped on her.

Joseph LoCascio of Picayune, Miss., stopped to try to help the girl. He rolled her over, and she vomited pink liquid all over her face and hair. He then rolled her back.

"People just walking around like they don't care," he said.

He and his friend Sandi Nolan, 21, of Baton Rouge, tried to revive the girl by pouring water, Gatorade and soda over her face and neck. It only left her shirt and hair soaked.

LoCascio tried to get a man in a firefighter T-shirt to treat the girl, but the man hesitated, saying: "She's breathing. If I took her, where would I take her?"

About 15 minutes later, a firefighter medic arrived and began checking the girl. Still, LoCascio and Nolan were furious at their fellow looters.

Both have infants being treated at Children's Hospital, New Orleans, and had come to get baby food and supplies.

"I've never seen people like this. I have drinks and chips, things I need," Nolan said. "They're getting chain saws and fishing poles, anything they can get for free."

As she and LoCascio left, she noticed he had at least a dozen DVDs in his basket, as well as baby formula and baby food. She laughed and pointed it out to him.

"They're for the kids, so they can watch them," he said. "Things like Finding Nemo."

Nolan laughed. "Don't worry," she said. "I got a few too."



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: crime; hurricane; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; looting; neworleans; urbanbarbarians
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To: silverleaf

I'm saying that the people you are seeing looting are in the minority
and you're saying that everyone should be punished because of them. I think that's shameful and not
very Christian like.


61 posted on 08/31/2005 7:46:06 AM PDT by Hildy (a fact to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.)
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To: twntaipan

fishing in contaminated and polluted water for already dead fish? I could understand this if the police were handing out consumables for survival. But that is not what is happening.

What purpose will the jewlery serve that was stolen?


62 posted on 08/31/2005 7:47:15 AM PDT by Rhadaghast (Yeshua haMashiach hu Adonai Tsidkenu)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Unfortunately we saw the same thing here during the rodney king riots. It permanately changed some of my beliefs about people.


63 posted on 08/31/2005 7:48:19 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: RexFamilia

I suspect one of those was the guy that Shep interviewed before the storm hit, that when asked why he was still there, replied: "none of your effing business".


65 posted on 08/31/2005 7:49:37 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Walkingfeather

yes they (democrats) are showing their true colors...

This is a Democratic city...Democratic state..

and this is how they act...

Its truly sick...


66 posted on 08/31/2005 7:49:55 AM PDT by Youngman442002
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To: Owl_Eagle
"They're getting chain saws and fishing poles…”

Honestly, I can see these things as necessities in that environment.

67 posted on 08/31/2005 7:50:03 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

68 posted on 08/31/2005 7:50:30 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: stuartcr
I have been thinking of the same thing. I imagine a family, a mom and dad w/several children, who took the warnings and evacuated to a motel maybe 200 miles inland. You fill the car w/gas, take money from the ATM, and probably charge your motel room (just thinking you will be gone a day or two) on a credit card. Now you find you have no home to go back to (or no way to safely go back to see for yourself); your place of work is probably out of business, no school systems for your kids; you are close to being out of cash (are the bank ATM systems running, I doubt it), and after a week or two of staying put at your evacuation local, you have maxed your credit card. Then what do you do?

No house, but still a mortgage; credit card bills, maybe a car payment on a second vehicle that you left behind. You are ruined financially and emotionally. You got your family to safety, but how and where do you start over?

This tragedy will take years, if not a generation, to recover from.

69 posted on 08/31/2005 7:51:43 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I used to take the highroad, but the altitude gave me nose bleeds....)
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To: American_Centurion
Any monies recieved right now will likely support exactly these people immediately, and they have shown absolutely NO regard for the people who owned the items they are stealing.

So you are punishing all the people in Miss., Alabama and those in New Orleans that are NOT looting because of what a small percentage of people are doing?

71 posted on 08/31/2005 7:52:41 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Owl_Eagle
Appreciate your sharing these events.. which is why I advocate no charitable gifts until we see just what is needed and what organization can respond with results to those needs.. The citizenry will need our resources and verbal support in the days ahead..

Just one thing really bothers me... if NO is under water.. no way to get around.. homes are in ruins..no way to get out of the city.. no gas..no place to go.. etc... where are the looters taking all this stuff???

From the pictures, a person will have a terrible time just getting out of the city or into the Dome with anything but basic needs..

I agree that we have a certain element of persons who take full advantage of a crisis.. NO has more than their share of this profile.. but where are the security people?? What the heck is "Marshall law"?..

Consideration: As people are forced to leave NO... I think that the leadership is calling for a full evacuation.. then everyone carrying loot should be arrested and placed in a secured site outside the city to wait for prosecution..

I know this is a whale of a suggestion.. most people in power do not want to deal with this (votes/public perceptions etc).. but if it is not dealt with we have created support and silent endorsement of these actions.. which is unacceptable in a civil society...

By the way.. while the looters are bad now.. just wait until the "white collar" looters move in.. i.e. cheating on FEMA forms and request, insurance fraud and the hordes of "helpers" coming into the city to "help" rebuild at a premium price... geeze louise..

So much for my feeble thought this AM...
72 posted on 08/31/2005 7:52:44 AM PDT by Fritzy (Fritzy)
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To: Owl_Eagle

The best aid you can send is cash, just make sure it goes to a responsible organization. Many of those looters as scum who will have no claim or life to rebuild anyways. Hold off for a while until things get organized and there is some structure and planning in place.


73 posted on 08/31/2005 7:53:23 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Owl_Eagle

If and when a manditory evacuation is ordered, evacuees can only take minimal food, clothes and perhaps bedding. If they want to get on the NG truck with a bag of DVDs or Nikes, no joy... If they refuse and stay, they're fair game.


74 posted on 08/31/2005 7:53:25 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Rhadaghast

Nothing.


75 posted on 08/31/2005 7:54:03 AM PDT by twntaipan (EU: The Eurabian Union?)
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To: Springman
The looting looks like the films I saw of the 67 Detroit riot.

Yup. If this teaches us anything, don't give up your guns.

You are the only one who will protect your home and family at times like this.

76 posted on 08/31/2005 7:54:53 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: Gardener
"don't penalize them for the acts of a few" Few????? I had to turn the tv off last night and even this morning visions of grinning men, women, and children grabbing as much stuff as possible and fighting over various items, still turn my stomach.

I know that there are actual victims here but most that have been shown who decided to stay in the "Big Easy" (now we really know what that stands for, don't we)are just lawless looters who deserve no pity at all!

77 posted on 08/31/2005 7:55:20 AM PDT by zerosix
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To: Tijeras_Slim

owl eagle
"Many of those looters as scum who will have no claim or life to rebuild anyways."

they will claim they had a 20,000 sf home..and 10 million in cash....they will lie to get as much as they can...



78 posted on 08/31/2005 7:57:35 AM PDT by Youngman442002
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To: Owl_Eagle

Allowing this to go on unfettered will cost lives in the future, as it will cause even more people to try to stay behind in impending disaster zones either to take part in the looting, or to protect their property from looting.

To allow or defend this is extremely short-sighted.


79 posted on 08/31/2005 7:58:28 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

I know, it's tragic. People doing what they are told and what they are supposed to do. I hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that when it comes to helping out with re-location, etc. these are the people that will be told they are too well off for help, or there is no more room for them.


80 posted on 08/31/2005 7:58:29 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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