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Looters around the city freely cleaning out stores (Amazingly Honest Account)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Natalie Pompilio

Posted on 08/31/2005 7:09:41 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel

Looters around the city freely cleaning out stores


Inquirer Staff Writer

At first it just seemed that the Wal-Mart in New Orleans' Lower Garden District was doing a very brisk post-hurricane business yesterday: The parking lot was full, people were leaving with brimming baskets, and city police and firefighters were there as if to oversee it all.

But people weren't going through the front door. They were squeezing between boards meant to protect the now-shattered glass from Hurricane Katrina's winds. One man was packing his van so full of computers, televisions and DVD players that he had trouble closing the rear doors. One woman was carrying three jugs of laundry detergent in a city with no power to run a washer.

As in so many past disasters elsewhere when crisis and chaos have replaced order and normalcy, a beleaguered New Orleans was beset by looters.

The widespread plundering started before Katrina had finished its onslaught Monday. That afternoon, looters broke into an emptied sporting-goods warehouse in Mid-City, a grocery in Treme, and the hardware center Uptown. In one instance, witnesses said, police were called but did nothing until one man shot another.

People said they had heard Wal-Mart had opened its doors to provide supplies for law-enforcement agencies sheltering the 10,000- plus people in the Louisiana Superdome. A Wal-Mart spokeswoman, Sharon Weber, said law enforcement, emergency-management teams, and relief agencies had "unwritten permission" to help themselves to whatever they need from Wal-Mart stores in times of crisis, but that standard procedure was for the police or aid officials to "leave us a list of what they take so they can pay us later."

At the Lower Garden District Wal-Mart, among the items seen being loaded into police cars were dozens of T-shirts, DVDs, and dog food.

But when law-enforcement officials went to get their goods, others - people of all ages and races - followed.

"They just came and no one could stop them," said David Brown, 38, a Port of New Orleans employee.

Brown and a coworker were filling their vehicle with dozens and dozens of canned goods - stews and chilis and Spaghetti-O's. Brown said the food would be used to feed the port's police and its employees, many of whom, like him, had worked nonstop since Saturday.

They were only taking essentials, he said, though a copy of Queen Latifah's Beauty Shop movie had apparently made that list.

Brown said the work showed no sign of easing.

"It's pretty bad," he said. "They've been calling for body bags all day."

Most streets in New Orleans were empty yesterday except for the hub around the Wal-Mart, in a section of the city that remained dry. People were everywhere: in cars and trucks, pushing goods in carts and baby carriages, dragging full trash cans and laundry baskets. The steady stream of cars caused a traffic jam on the streets near the store - the type of traffic jam last seen here when people tried to evacuate.

"Is everything free?" asked a woman who pulled up in a red car. Hearing "yes," she started to chant: "TV! TV! TV!"

Inside, a teenage boy held up a pair of blue lacy panties and snickered, "I want to see somebody in these so bad," before tossing them in his basket.

Another man used a table to break into one of the last unscathed jewelry cases.

A rumor that the National Guard had arrived sent people running toward the store's exit, shouting: "Come on! Come on!" But no one put down any merchandise, and the Guard rumor turned out to be false.

Some shoppers were oddly selective. One woman said she was taking only facial-care products. Another was pushing a cart filled with silk roses and baby's breath. In the pharmacy aisle, she leaned over the handle, pushing it slowly as she read labels the way a paying customer would.

But the overwhelming feeling was one of chaos - angry shouting, carts ramming, fast grabbing. When a teenage girl passed out face down between the baby clothes and a women's-sock display, people pushed past or stepped on her.

Joseph LoCascio of Picayune, Miss., stopped to try to help the girl. He rolled her over, and she vomited pink liquid all over her face and hair. He then rolled her back.

"People just walking around like they don't care," he said.

He and his friend Sandi Nolan, 21, of Baton Rouge, tried to revive the girl by pouring water, Gatorade and soda over her face and neck. It only left her shirt and hair soaked.

LoCascio tried to get a man in a firefighter T-shirt to treat the girl, but the man hesitated, saying: "She's breathing. If I took her, where would I take her?"

About 15 minutes later, a firefighter medic arrived and began checking the girl. Still, LoCascio and Nolan were furious at their fellow looters.

Both have infants being treated at Children's Hospital, New Orleans, and had come to get baby food and supplies.

"I've never seen people like this. I have drinks and chips, things I need," Nolan said. "They're getting chain saws and fishing poles, anything they can get for free."

As she and LoCascio left, she noticed he had at least a dozen DVDs in his basket, as well as baby formula and baby food. She laughed and pointed it out to him.

"They're for the kids, so they can watch them," he said. "Things like Finding Nemo."

Nolan laughed. "Don't worry," she said. "I got a few too."



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: crime; hurricane; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; looting; neworleans; urbanbarbarians
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

I wouldn't send any money to the Red Cross ever, but there are many other agencies out there trying to help. I will send my money to the ones who have consistently over the years used the money the way it's designated.


41 posted on 08/31/2005 7:36:28 AM PDT by Gardener
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To: Owl_Eagle
In the aftermath of the tsunami.

Indonesia's system of street justice was in full swing in a refugee camp in Banda Aceh yesterday when this man was caught stealing a mobile phone from a nearby mosque.

He was stripped of his shirt, dumped in the mud and then paraded at the entrance of the camp wearing a sign saying "I'm a thief".

As he shook with fear, camp children who lost everything in the tsunami less than a fortnight ago surrounded him and jeered as their parents and other survivors encouraged them.

The crowd then marched him down the road through the crowd of tents as refugees stepped up to punch him, the children mocking him with chants of "I'm a thief".

42 posted on 08/31/2005 7:38:38 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Owl_Eagle

A donation to The Red Crosswill help out those with immediate need of food, clothing & shelter. It's not like they are handing cash to looters.

I'm afraid our own federal tax dollars are going to be severley misspent through FEMA to re-house these criminals, along with the truly needy.

Norlins looks like a perfect spot for dredge spoils placement. Fill it in to 30' above sea level, let it consolidate 30 years and start over.


43 posted on 08/31/2005 7:38:52 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This ain't your granddaddy's America)
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To: twntaipan
The guy hauling out the fishing rods might have been planning on things in NO being messed up for the duration.

I was thinking the same thing about the guy taking chainsaws. These items are actually useful in the current circumstances. Taking a TV or DVDs, seems pretty insane.

44 posted on 08/31/2005 7:39:05 AM PDT by sharkhawk
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To: Gardener
I wouldn't send any money to the Red Cross ever . . .

I am in total agreement.

The Red Cross is notorious for begging for money during a crisis but using that same maoney after the crisis is over for everything from drug needles to the addicts, free condoms, and using some money for anti-Red State politics. They will never see a dime from me ever again.

45 posted on 08/31/2005 7:40:13 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: philetus
Of course not, but it's man's nature to blame someone or something right after a disaster like this. I'm just trying to understand people's actions and I'm saying that none of us know exactly how we would react.

On another topic, why can't they take people to relatives or friends in other States. So go around the Superdome and have people call relatives and friends and make arrangements once they get to Houston to get them out of there. Won't the same thing happen in Houston that happened at the Superdome?

46 posted on 08/31/2005 7:40:36 AM PDT by Hildy (a fact to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.)
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To: Truthsayer20

"They should raze the whole place down along with the looters and start anew."

I believe that God just did that. All those years of decadent behavior and loose living instead of building infrastruture...


47 posted on 08/31/2005 7:41:08 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: Owl_Eagle

Those people that have insurance and evacuated, are the ones, that will really get hosed. Most of them probably are well off enough to get in their cars and evacuate, but I doubt many of them will be able to afford to live in a motel for 2 or 3 months, without any income. I doubt, that they will be receiving the charity that those that stayed are going to get.


48 posted on 08/31/2005 7:41:19 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: RicocheT
I too am reluctant to send money to looters and bad people

So you've never donated to a political candidate? :)

49 posted on 08/31/2005 7:42:18 AM PDT by Hildy (a fact to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.)
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To: Hildy
Won't the same thing happen in Houston that happened at the Superdome?

The Astrodome has power, air conditioning, running water, toilets, and probably even some reasonable food preparation facilities. And it doesn't have a 5-foot-deep moat around it, so people can actually get in and out.

50 posted on 08/31/2005 7:42:45 AM PDT by FinallyBackInNH
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To: Antoninus
What happens when the welfare state meets a power vaccuum. Scary if you live near a major city of any kind, really.

It is in mine.. not allowed to conceal/carry here in Columbus, Ohio. How the hell would I protect myself and family with savages running in the streets after a disaster. Oh well, screw the law at that point.. protection comes first.

52 posted on 08/31/2005 7:43:24 AM PDT by soundandvision
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To: halfright

I hate to even bring this us, but if I were a terrorist, I'd be thinking this would be the perfect time for another attack on our country.


53 posted on 08/31/2005 7:43:48 AM PDT by Hildy (a fact to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

They're just being good democrats the way they were groomed to be by liberal democrat politicians force feeding them the ideas that they are entitled to free handouts by the evil majority who have held them down. It's get even time. I'm curious as to how many of the Walmart looters were employees there.


54 posted on 08/31/2005 7:44:02 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! "ALLEN IN 08")
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To: Gardener

I would wait to send money. Your Tax $$ will fund the organizations that can give any help there. FEMA will start dishing out some serious cash and of course some of that will be fraudulent payments.

I guess what I am saying is in the USA money is not the problem in this situation. The money is in place. The problem is getting the right things to the right places, which money will not help.

However if you new there was an organization that say would buy boats and put them to good use there now then I would buy that.

I would not just send money to send money, yet.

Sorry if it sounds cold or non caring, it is not meant to be. More money this week will not help. Later on yes but right now I don't think so.


55 posted on 08/31/2005 7:44:32 AM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Before the storm hit N.O. I told my wife that many people were staying behind, not to weather the storm, but to wait so they can "clean up" the stores.

She said that I was a cynical SOB.

She has apologized when saw what's happening there


56 posted on 08/31/2005 7:44:35 AM PDT by RexFamilia
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To: philetus

Aren't hurricanes, tornados, etc...considered acts of God?


57 posted on 08/31/2005 7:44:38 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: FinallyBackInNH

They should attempt to get people out to family members.


58 posted on 08/31/2005 7:44:47 AM PDT by Hildy (a fact to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.)
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To: ProudFossil
Remember how the liberals were screaming about all the looting when Baghdad fell? Where is the condemnation now?

This is the best quote in this post. Thanks.

59 posted on 08/31/2005 7:44:50 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: halfright

I have been writing letters to that effect for 5 years now. It seems our government knows what is good for us better than we do.


60 posted on 08/31/2005 7:45:20 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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