Posted on 08/30/2005 10:10:45 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
I'm pretty interested in findng those Mardi Gras numbers. You're probably right.
Well, we lost the Brain. Again.
Please restore this Freeper, MFH, to your good graces and posting privleges I respectfully ask.
True enough. You just got suspended again.
You came here to complain and criticize, not to contribute to the discussion. You've just further reinforced that.
Exactly right....
We also lost My Favorite Headache.
I don't post very often but I do read a lot here. This banning of My Favorite Headache is not right. I thought he/she was unfairly attacked most of the day. Somebody's skin is way too thin.
Since the >7,000 drowned in Galveston's 1900 storm, everyone but children know that storm surges wash away cities and the people by the thousands.
Everyone in N.O. knows that they live way below sea level. Only an idiot or a fool thinks that they are not subject to nature.
Millions shall again rebuild on the beach sands and hundreds of thousands shall want to again live under water in old N.O. all at other taxpayers' expense AND our bloated Keynesian socialist big spenders want to spend the next generation into more mortal danger risks so the pandered to can live their ideal life style in the sun - on our money.
We should help the survivors remake their lives, but not to make the same foolish mistakes again and again on our dimes. (I spend thousand$ every year to mostly assure that my family can survive most of life's hazzards of nearly all imaginable serious risks without demanding strangers to subsizdize our current home.)
Zoning jurisdictions must not allow rebuilding in most places destroyed, but they will because they are short-term tax dollar whores. Hundreds of thousands of people could have perished because tens of millions now live where they shouldn't - given sober ri$k analyses of beach fronts and that mud bowl.
We should kindly help the pathetic survivors, but not to make the same bloody fool hardy bluders by allowing them to rebuild THERE.
I dunno why that happened.
And, they've been saying stuff, and I've been hearing the news say it anywhere form five minutes to thirty minutes afterwards.
So I'd say they're vindicated, but..
So I'm sitting here scratching my head.
"There won't be the "thousands" in Mississippi like the OP claims there already is.
And I'm not stupid enough to let you pin me down to a number."
Actually, you already did, at least for Mississippi. Hopefully you are right, the scale of storm surge damage there is beyond my ability to easily envision.
I simply am not as optimistic as you, as, having gone through a direct hit hurricane in biloxi (elena 1985), I know that many people WOULD stay at home on or around the coastal communities, and those people and their houses were underwater for some period of time. The reports from BSL, Long Beach, Ocean springs, etc. are terribly grim.
I concur and second bvw's request ....
Could we see a replay of that foul again? Please?
Maybe too happy with throwing that penalty flag?
All you needed was a car. Absent that, it was stay, or walk out on foot, or hijack a car.
I agree. MFH should not be banned/suspended.
Look at this article:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473932/posts
Mississippi search crews pulling bodies from rubble - railroad tracks about six blocks from beach
And this excerpt on the ongoing live threads:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474387/posts?q=1&&page=101
Katrina Live Thread XII
To: NautiNurse
Ok, the President has spoken, and I believe it is now time for all of us to being speaking bluntly. It has been my policy for the last few days to look for and point up the brightest news I could find, because I knew what we might be facing long before Katrina ever made landfall.
In my opinion, the time for optimism has passed. New Orleans did not dodge a bullet, New Orleans suffered a worst case doomsday scenario. But this is far far bigger than New Orleans alone.
By my count, America has lost not one city, but nine of them.
New Orleans, population 1.2 million, Slidell, pop. 26,000, Bay St. Louis/Waveland pop. 12,000, Long Beach, pop. 17,000, Gulfport, pop. 71,000, Biloxi, pop. 50,000, Ocean Springs, pop. 17,000, Psacagoula/Moss Point/Gautier, pop. 42,000, and Mobile, pop. 198,000.
I have figures in my possession that indicate a total maximum death toll of 410,000 Americans and a minimum death toll of 41,000 Americans.
I derived these figures as follows.
During the Hurricane Ivan mandatory evacuation, 600,000 people answered the call for mandatory evacuation, out of a total population of 1.2 million in the metro area. 600,000 remained behind. If half of those remaining behind did not survive the storm, or will not survive from this point onward, then the death toll in New Orleans alone will rise to 300,000 people. This is clearly a pessimistic approach, but I would remind the doubters that total rescue efforts yesterday saved, by the most optimistic estimates, 3,000 people. 3,000 out of potentially 300,000.
On the brighter side, if the pre-storm estimates prove to be true, then only 300,000 people did not evacuate in the greater New Orleans metro area, 100,000 of those within the city limits as claimed by the Mayor of that city. If only one in ten of the people trapped in attics and on their roofs died, or will die before they are rescued, the death toll in New Orleans alone will rise to 30,000 souls lost.
One in ten stay, one in ten of those die, 30,000, total. Just in New Orleans.
These numbers are speculative, and, having demonstrated the method used in deriving them, you may judge for yourselves their validity. Before you dismiss them out of hand, you should be aware that pre-storm death-toll estimates from the Red Cross ranged from 25,000 to 100,000 for New Orleans alone. Engineers tasked by the City with estimating worst case scenarios estimated a death toll of 40,000. FEMA estimates were 50,000 deaths for New Orleans alone.
It is my personal view that any final death toll under 41,000 will be considered a victory. The more the final count falls short of this, the luckier we will have been.
(excerpt)
106 posted on 08/31/2005 4:33:33 PM PDT by jeffers
Censorship is a government issue which doesn't apply to PRIVATE PROPERTY. Get a life.
"Censorship is a signature of the weak and fearful. Reason doesn't come into play."
Honestly, I'd say that the above sentence is what is getting you whacked.
Because you aid it here:
krambrain2
'The censorship and attacks are way beyond what I see as the entire reason that a place like this should exist'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1473894/posts?page=2439#2439
No reports, no relatives interviewed (although I suppose the MIBs could have used a flashy thing on them), no massive increases in hiring to cover the thousands that no longer exist. Ah, I get it. It was a coverup. I suppose this is the same government that covered up the alien visits back in the 1940s too. I bet it was a Democratic ploy to get Republicans to vote for Hillary's healthcare plan back then. And it backfired. Whew, glad we missed that one...
Sheesh, what benefit would the national government have for covering up those killed by a natural disaster? What tinfoil conspiracy would give them the benefit for doing this? If I were you, I'd wrap an extra layer of tinfoil on, quit posting (it can give away your position), and go hide in your basement. The 'government' may be coming to get as we speak because you 'know' too much.
Who knows, I may be a government plant surfing these threads to find out who 'knows' the truth and report them to your local MIB (Natural Disaster Coverup Division) office so they can come give you a friendly visit.
Mind you, I'm not saying a lot of people didn't die in this disaster but the numbers will be released by local authorities sooner or later. It is not a government conspiracy
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