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Posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse
Better go back and find the zeros on those scales. Also look for the "normal lake level" marker at the 1 foot mark.
I happened to wake up in time for the 4 am news. Cantore may actually have been correct in guesstimating the surge plus wave at 37 feet, for there were pictures of a beachfront building 5 stories tall with obvious fourth-floor damage. Other pictures included piles of matchsticks, a flipped 18-wheeler with only the tires showing above the floodwaters, shattered highways and bridges, and of course videos of the Coast Guard and looters in action.
Did Mississippi get proper warning or were news agencies just focused on New Orleans and LA?
The scale of this disaster is amazing, there are so many problems: Evacuation, Refugee Housing, Food & Water, Medical, Civil Engineering, Transportation, Alternate Export Routing, the Political Crisis which will develop, etc.
It is clearly beyond the capacity of the Louisiana government - but probably not beyond FR.
I remember the news, especially FNC, showing the projected paths, which showed the storm hitting the lower east side of Louisiana, then cutting up northeast and running up Mississippi.
Hurricane turned to east in last few hours.
LP elevation here:
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?format=gif&period=7&site_no=073802331
Current 5.11 feet about 4 feet increase from gulf surge going over the dam backwards. Blow the dam and LP goes to 0.
most of NO drains back into the lake.
The wettest side of a hurricane is the northeast side. I don't think they expected the huge water surge.
I'm confused. Broken levies have water spilling into and filling the city.
Well said.
I'm so tied of the discussion about who did what wrong.
First action: get the people out.
Second action: Blow LP dam to drain most of the city.
Third action: get pumps going to finish draining city.
Four action: repair levees
Fifth action: have a big meeting to discuss what to do next.
True. But blow the LP dam and the lake goes down 5 feet. Well below even the breeches.
Sometimes I am amazed at what I do NOT know LOL!
Those of us who went through school when education was the priority know about the silt from the Mississippi and the delta.
My question is this-the Mississippi does not flow as it did in the past because of the dams and locks. Has that affected the silt deposits? I guess I am asking, if the Mississippi flowed as it did in the past, would NO be in such trouble today or is that one of those great debate questions no one can answer with certainty?
***....Gulfport Fire Chief Pat Sullivan said most of those who died in Gulfport perished in the zone of the storm surge, which pushed up to a set of railroad tracks about six blocks from the beach. "We begged, we pleaded, we demanded. We told them they had a good chance of dying if they didn't leave. But there's only so much government can do to protect people," Sullivan said. "Too many people tried to ride it out. We can't regulate good sense." ....*** Mississippi search crews pulling bodies from rubble - railroad tracks about six blocks from beach
Still confused.
Is this dam holding lake water back from the city?
If so, is there any place for it to go?
Do you want to add more if there is?
No the lake was overfilled by the storm surge going over the dam between it and the gulf. We need to blow a big hole in the dam to drain the lake down to sea level.
Okay. Thanks for taking the time to explain that to me.
well thats a good qustionyes and no however for years the Miss appears to want to try to break free north of baton rouge and follow a coursre similar to the atchafalya. Thats great for costal erosion prob on the rest of the gulf bad because it would cause major destruction but mainly bad for nola because it wouldnt be on the river or be aport and be pretty useless
well thats a good qustionyes and no however for years the Miss appears to want to try to break free north of baton rouge and follow a coursre similar to the atchafalya. Thats great for costal erosion prob on the rest of the gulf bad because it would cause major destruction but mainly bad for nola because it wouldnt be on the river or be aport and be pretty useless
The dam doesn't cross the whole lake does it? I thought S.E. section was free-flowing estuary?
Or, I probably should have said it's not so much a dam as it is protective wall between the tidal marshes to the south and the lake?
Don't know, trying to research where the level control really is. There must be a spillway, lock or something.
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