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To: mercy; Urbane_Guerilla; Siobhan; Marine_Uncle; gov_bean_ counter; nopardons; Prime Choice; ...

1. My experience with staffers is that they sometimes try to "steer" the issue; this could have been the case when those involved in ABLE DANGER came forward to the 9/11 commission. This does not excuse them.

2. There are reports that LTC Schaffer was the subject of fradulent travel claims or phone bills - he may have been, but this would not be in the news if someone wanted him silenced. He was also a reveered case officer from what I have been told; and thoght out of the box.

3. ABLE DANGER used the same technology as CIFA (Counterintelligence Field Activity) and when congressional staffers came into that space, an analyst said "give me a name" for a demonstration. A staffer said "Chu" (to see what would happen) and the the analyst plugged that name in. The result of the name "Chu" was that the technology involved spewed out connections between someone named "Chu" and Pres Clinton. A copy of that report was requested; the analyst stupidly acquieced; the congressional staffer took it to the hill and it was released that Clinton had ties to the Chinese.

That technology was then shut down, to include ABLE DANGER and CIFA (formerly JCAG - which used the same technology). The Clinton administration was incensed and we lost all capability to track foreigners in our homeland.

Then you add Jamie Gorelick to the mix who wanted to preclude any technology or processes to allow those with that technology to provide info on people in America that wanted to destroy us from within to be provided by the U.S. military to law enforcement. Now, what do you all think is wrong with this picture??

Jamie Gorelich was sitting on the wrong side of the table in the Senate 9/11 hearings; and what was Sandy Berger REALLY doing n the archives??

Food for thought. . . . . .


444 posted on 08/29/2005 8:57:05 PM PDT by Ironmajor (Michael Graham 630 WMAL and CAIR)
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To: Ironmajor
Gorelick and Burgler are genuine traitors.

They should be dealt with as such under the appropriate code.

451 posted on 08/29/2005 9:02:00 PM PDT by Siobhan (Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet.)
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To: Ironmajor

A veritable feast, upon which to gorge.


467 posted on 08/29/2005 9:12:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Ironmajor
There are reports that LTC Schaffer was the subject of fradulent travel claims or phone bills - he may have been, but this would not be in the news if someone wanted him silenced. He was also a reveered case officer from what I have been told; and thoght out of the box.

Knowing the MSM/dems and the Clintons worked hand in hand, wouldn't this be a way to intimidate a good man? The Clinton goons MO was to uncover embarrassing information and use it to keep people quiet. And didn't they use something like this in travelgate? They looked for any lack of total perfection to hit up decent people. Is that what you're saying? And yeah, it would be in the news - as a threat -- if they could get the MSM to cover phone bills, they could get them to cover something more embarrassing.

Does the MSM shill for the bad guys?

472 posted on 08/29/2005 9:13:44 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Ironmajor

Thanks for your thoughts. See post 433, article from the Captain's Quarter..........

So much is going to drip drip drip out. No one has made mentioned on what Clinton may have been involved in concerning deals in the Balkans etc.. AD must have had an enourmouse amount of raw data on many many things, the Atta part is just one little part. Heaven knows if Weldon at this point (you would think he was forwarned by the AD crew), knows how much could end up being exposed that is totally extraneious to the Atta-9/11 issue. Obviously the Chicom issues is being reborn by the minute.
I gotta get some shut eye. I am bleary eyed at this point.
nighty night.


559 posted on 08/29/2005 10:07:01 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Ironmajor
According to the Wall Street Journal, Gorelick fulfilled much the same role as Hubbell had, acting as Hillary's "eyes and ears at the Justice Department." During this time, Gorelick was used to blind the FBI of Clinton corruption which caused the blind eye for the activities of the 9/11 attack. We remember it was Web Hubbell who served 16 months for his over charges to his Arkansas law firm and his clients. He also plead guilty on a tax charge that was later dismissed by the U.S. Supreme Court due to fifth amendment issues concerning private documents. It seems as if Hitlary was cutting and pasting "eyes and ears" from the same cloth.

It is interesting that Gorelick's position on the 9/11 Commission may have been to alert the Clintons that some compromising information was being uncovered by the Commission and that Sandy Burger had to be sent into the National Archives to grab the damaging information. This is not the first time that Gorelick has been used to protect the Clintons from scrutiny. It is known that the Wall was originally erected between the CIA and the FBI to protect the Clintons from damaging information about the campaign cash from the Chinese government in exchange for nuclear secrets.

We hope to God that the Clintons did not enable the Chinese to develop the technology for the miniaturization of a nuclear device in exchange for (sex?) and campaign cash.

635 posted on 08/30/2005 12:48:44 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Ironmajor
ABLE DANGER used the same technology as CIFA (Counterintelligence Field Activity) and when congressional staffers came into that space, an analyst said "give me a name" for a demonstration. A staffer said "Chu" (to see what would happen) and the the analyst plugged that name in. The result of the name "Chu" was that the technology involved spewed out connections between someone named "Chu" and Pres Clinton. A copy of that report was requested; the analyst stupidly acquieced; the congressional staffer took it to the hill and it was released that Clinton had ties to the Chinese.

I never knew that. Is that common knowledge?

654 posted on 08/30/2005 3:47:38 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Ironmajor

Do you have a source for that story? That's new info to me.


661 posted on 08/30/2005 4:08:15 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Fairtax.org)
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